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vivster said:

There is so much wrong in your post.

So far PS5 isn't facing any more competition than the PS4 did.
Google, Amazon and Apple are irrelevant in the console space and most likely won't be during this gen.
Most console buyers do buy by brand, or at least by the games associated with it. Even if you go by pure value the PS5 is far ahead with their discless version.
Wii U showed nothing that is in any way relevant to the current generation.

Nobody who buys the PS5 will buy it because it has a shiny new controller. They will buy it because it's a Playstation.

I forgot to repley at the time.. but the above is delusional beyond time.

"So far PS5 isn't facing any more competition than the PS4 did"

Nintendo and Microsoft in top shape (With PS4.. both had negativ PR)

Some of the biggest companys in the world (many times bigger than sony) have startet.. and will burn billions of dollars to get in on the action (no matter how you spin it.. thats not the same as last time)

Cloud gaming is here.. big % of the console market can now play New AAA games without have to buy a console (This we will get attention from some parents and more casual gamers)

"Google, Amazon and Apple are irrelevant in the console space and most likely won't be during this gen"

We know they will invest heavily.. how on earth can you just say they will be "irrelevant"

Also remember that they allready has us in in their ecosystems.

https://www.androidcentral.com/stadia-might-be-best-way-play-cyberpunk-2077-right-now-most-gamers

"Most console buyers do buy by brand, or at least by the games associated with it"

That's what I'm saying :) Do not buy by brand.. The reason I say this is that I often see people act like just becourse its a playstation it will sell.  The reality is that the average video game customer look at "the value in hand" and if they trust that company.

"Wii U showed nothing that is in any way relevant to the current generation"

It showed that the most popular console and games.. dosent automatic translates to succes with next console.

"Nobody who buys the PS5 will buy it because it has a shiny new controller"

The hole point of this tread is to find out.. from people who tried it.. if DUALSENSE is inded the reason why (non playstation drones) will see extra value and therefor choose PS5. But thanks for your input