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shikamaru317 said:
Eagle367 said:

One Blundered launch is the understatement of the millenia. This "one blundered launch" is equal to enough drama for a decade or 2 for many companies. CDPR will be fine financially but underselling the disaster that is Cyberpunk 2077 isn't the way to go. They are just another 3rd party company now so their image is damaged enough that it will take at least a decade to recover. They aren't in their own class anymore,

I don't know if I agree with that. One only has to look at their tweets to see quite a few highly upvoted replies from CD Projekt fans who are standing by them during this controversy. Look at some of the replies to their latest tweet:

Quite alot of top replies saying things like "We believe in you" and "thank you for your hard work during the Holidays". Yes, their image is damaged in some people's eyes for sure, and it will take time to win back those people's trust, but they clearly still have a ton of fans who see them as one of the AAA gaming greats in spite of the controversy. 

All we have to do as look back at some other controversial games of this generation like No Man's Sky and Fallout 76 to see that studios and their games can bounce back pretty quickly from controversy. Both No Man's Sky and Fallout 76 got slammed on release, with poor user reviews and anger about lies the developers told, but here we are years later and both games are still regulars on most played lists, while Fallout 76 is still a top seller, making it onto Steam's 2020 bestsellers list this year. Not only that, but Bethesda's Starfield and Elder Scrolls 6 are still highly anticipated releases.

When Fallout 76 released, people acted like it was the end of the world for Bethesda, acted like they would never recover from the damage it did, but here we are 2 years later and already the majority of gamers, especially casual gamers, have long since forgotten about the controversy (if they ever cared about it to start with) and many of them are still playing Fallout 76 to this day (27th on Xbox US most played games list currently for instance). 

Sorry I have to object to quite a few of these things. One, there will always be fanboys defending a company no matter what shitty thing they do and that includes CDPR, Ninty, Sony, Microsoft, Ubisoft, etc. Two, the developers have to be commended for still working hard to fix their game. It's not their fault. Hell they are one of the victims of the management or lack thereof because they were forced to crunch and had to suffer an onslaught of people calling out their game when they worked so hard on it and some even wrongfully turned their anger towards the developers. 

Third, Fallout 76 is essentially being handed out like candy so being on the list of bestsellers is not really an achievement. The game still sucks. Fourth, I said they would be fine financially and you reiterated that point for me by comparing it to No Man's Sky.

But with all that said, the mystique is still gone for the international gaming community as a whole. If you tell me that CDPR are still as revered as they were a few months back, I'll call you out on lying. And if you tell me that CDPR will be as revered 3-5 years down the line as they were a few months back, I'm not gonna believe you one bit. Just like with Bethesda after Fallout 76, they will be the butt of many jokes and they will have everyone point to Cyberpunk 2077 when they try to overhype their new games for quite a long while. 

Let's recap what they did though. They lied to the gamers, investors, console makers and even their own developers. Their new game got pulled out of Sony's hardware even though much worse games have never been pulled out. There are lawsuits against them. Their game is being sent back. Most of the jnternational gaming community is angry with them. Very few companies have that much drama in a decade, let alone one game launch. I don't see how they can be as revered as they were a few months back for quite some time. So that basically makes them just another third party developer instead of being in a league of their own.

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