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Farsala said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Here is an estimate (in millions) by region:

JapanNAEURoWTotal
Switch37584926170


I've answered your request.  Now I have a request too.  You can criticize my numbers if you like, but you have to come up with a better argument than, "I just don't think it's going to sell that much."

For such high numbers I usually like to go math + comparisons to the highest selling consoles from each region. But first lets compare to your prediction.

As of October 1, 2020 (15 quarters)

Switch-

Japan: 16.1m (43%)

Americas: 26.5m (46%)

Europe: 17.7m (36%)

Other: 7.8m  (30%)

So from your prediction alone, it is lagging pretty far behind in Europe and Others for a chance. But the question becomes, is 15 quarters past its halfway selling point or not? The answer is usually a resounding yes in Japan and America, but less so in Europe. The reason being is late launches in territories not yet launched in, but the Switch has already launched in most territories.

Next lets compare to the top consoles at 15 quarters. Actually I can only find data for 14 quarters, so Switch gets a handicap. And for others I cannot find good data.

Japan (DS, 14 quarters): 22.38m (72%)

America (Wii, 14 quarters): 33.4m (79%)

Europe (PS2, 14 quarters): 24.79m (71%)

So while you predict it to surpass the top consoles, it is currently not on pace to do that.

Also as a side note, while I was searching for these numbers, I happened upon a PS2 thread discussing its final sales. All estimates put it between 159.2m and 161.9m. So I was a little high, my bad.

This methodology doesn't make sense when more granular data is available.  Comparing LTD through x quarters vs. final LTD as a % implies a baseline long term trend.  That point is exactly what is being contended when trying to compare legs for an actively selling console vs one that has completed selling. 

IE:

America NDS through 14 quarters - 22.39M

America Wii through 14 quarters - 33.40M (79%)

If that's all the data I present, and ignore the NDS's actual final total, I should conclude that the DS isn't/wasn't on pace for 60M at that time.  But that's silly, because if I looked at more granular data, I could surmise that the NDS seems to be on an upward trend in America later in its life than the Wii's peak, and guess that FY4 and FY5 might continue that trend or stay flat and help keep the NDS in the battle (which turned into a blowout in the NDS's favor).

You're shutting down the nitty gritty of the argument before it even has a chance to begin with this logic.  Plus launch aligning by quarters ignores the problem of the holiday count.

Here's some more broken down data (I can split it in two if it makes it larger and easier to read).  Obviously PS2 is hard to compare 1:1 due to different regional breakdowns.

This makes it more obvious that the Wii is a poor comparison in any region.  Also makes it evident that the NSW is in the middle of a peak year, and its hard to make any conclusions out of the current LTD because its about to spike with a big holiday quarter (possibly record holiday quarter), and ignoring the impact of that by looking at 15 mo LTD is going to miss the actual signal by a longshot.

What would make more sense is to project the rest of the current FY or wait for another quarter (so final FY4 prediction can become more precise - only one quarter to predict instead of the broad range holiday quarter) and then project out from there.  What caused a peak this year?  Factors that drove it, factors that held it back?  Which of those will be present next year and how strong?  From there we can derive potential for FY5 and consider how that might shape up against the NDS sales curves region by region, and then project forward.