Sony counting on dualsense?

[JWeinCom]

Bandorr said:

JWeinCom said:

If Sony is "counting on" it, I would assume that they're talking about consoles. But even among for games, I don't think it's near the top of the list for many people. Performance would likely be at the top. I'd imagine that for multiplayer games, what other people play on (and cross platform play). For games that are available on Switch as well, there is portability to consider. And, for people with a gaming quality PC, they might consider that.

Controller is definitely more relevant to games than console, but still not really going to top my list. And this is also assuming that the Dual Sense features actually make the controller better, which I'd have to try them both to figure out. I generally find XBox's controllers way more comfortable than Playstation, so that would have to factor in.

As for consoles, the dualsense features (microphone, HDrumble, adaptive triggers or whatever they use), are pretty low on my list. Exclusives would come first, then services like Gamepass/PSNow, then hardware specs, then probably what more of my friends have, then price, then probably the controller as a whole, but not necessarily limited to those specific features. The quality of rumble/trigger resistance is probably a bit further down after overall comfort of the controller, backwards compatibility for hardware/software, back catalog, and maybe the OS. At best it would be like my fifth consideration, but it would be a really distant fifth. 

As for GT6 w/dualsense features being a significantly better system seller than GT6 with not as good dual sense features... I'm highly skeptical.

GT6+Mediocre Dualsense Use- Nah.

GT6+ Great Dualsense Use- Here's $300+.

Doesn't add up to me.

I believe we may be arguing slightly different points. I don't think the dual sense will get people to buy their console. I think it will be the be the deal breaker.

The systems are roughly the same in performance. Also in price.

It isn't "GT6+ Great Dualsense Use- Here's $300+." It's "GT6 Here's $300" and "Oh you have dual sense, to get that 300+".

If you are already set on getting a console and you have moved past games, and gamepass - then at that point the dual sense heavily favors the Playstation.

At that point you don't care about exclusives, or "easy" of games. You don't care about performance or cost. Then all things being equal (and they pretty much are at that point) Dual sense is that finger on the scale. That 50/50 becomes 50/51.

The topic's question that I was responding to though was if Sony is "counting on" Dual Sense. I would say counting on implies that Sony is heavily relying on that for their success. Wouldn't you agree?  

So, let's say hypothetically, Sony had launched a PS5 with exactly the same features and specs, with the only exception being that it launched with a controller that is basically a Dualshock 4 with some quality of life improvements. 

Suppose in this hypothetical universe, the PS5 sold 100 million units. If that's the case, how much would the PS5 sell in our universe where everything is the same except for Dualsense? Based on that number, is Sony "counting on" Dualsense?