How is Nintendo's and Sony's relationship today?

[Farsala]

RolStoppable said:

Farsala said:

Nintendo had 80% or better in the first period I posted, as well as many times in the years before when Sony did not have a handheld. I listed the entire double Handheld era aside from end of 2005-2006. The way VGC does their charts really throws me off... But anyways expect lower than usual Sony/Nintendo marketshare during transition periods vs peak periods. Sony might actually win a year in marketshare with their lowest selling console...

You wrote down the disclaimer that PS2 sales are excluded, so I wasn't going to pretend that the 2006 and 2007 splits are correct. Prior to 2006, it wasn't that great of a time for Nintendo either. We have lifetime figures of 20m PS1s and 23m PS2s vs. 5m N64s and 4m GCs plus 16m GBAs and... I don't recall how much the GBC sold right now. But when you have these numbers as a basis and then spread them over the course of a good decade, you'll get nowhere near 80% for Nintendo in any year, plus it actually gives Sony a higher market share in some years. (Sega was there too and had a higher presence than the Xbox afterwards, but it's not that important.)

As for Sony winning a year with the PS5, that's a longshot. The PS4 peaked at ~2.0m and it's hard to imagine that the PS5 can top that.

You are correct that there are fluctuations in market share due to transition periods for both companies, but it's apparent from the numbers you posted (they are complete for the transition from gen 7 to gen 8, and the transition from gen 8 to gen 9) that the state of the market has swung more in favor of Nintendo from one generation to the next one. The previous time Nintendo topped out at 70%, this time they got to 80%.

EDIT:

@Farsala , I found this video, covers market share for the years 1996 to 2007, so starting at the point where the PS1 got traction. Start of the video until the 6 minute mark is the elaborate version with system breakdown. 6 minute mark until the end is the short version with only a manufacturer breakdown. Sony had the majority market share from 1997 through 2005.

GBA and Gamecube were also excluded, my bad on the disclaimer. Due to VGC weird way of making charts, retrieving the necessary information in my comparison would be far too difficult.

Also without this guy's sources, we can't tell if it is correct without fact checking it. I can already tell 2005 is wrong in the way we normally measure things. His 2005 has PS2 outselling the DS, GBA, and Gamecube combined.

Here is a 2005 report:

https://www.ign.com/articles/2006/01/11/famitsu-reports-2005-japan-sales

DS  4,002,871 units

PSP 2,225,799 units

PS2 2,134,863 units

It appears that video is a software marketshare video, when the argument has always been about hardware.