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Farsala on 28 November 2020
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RolStoppable said:
B6a6es said:

while i agree regarding the (Avoiding-Xbox) deals (SFV - Timed Nier Automata & FFVIIR-XVI) i don't recall any of those games (or other similar deals) had anything to do with the switch, for example the Spiderman DLC Exclusive for the Avengers or Timed Exclusive Cold War Zombie DLC wouldn't even affect Switch owners since none of these games are available on the switch in the first place nor is there any plans of porting them (mostly due to Hardware Limitations of the Switch).

while there might be minor competition between the Two (Sony-Nintendo) they’re no longer in bad terms as they were in the Past, and almost all of the Deals Sony Make Nowadays are mostly Towards Xbox, not the Switch.

So once again, kindly provide any examples of Sony Blocking a Game, DLCs , or even Timed Exclusively from the Switch.

I am not sure what point you are trying to make with the Wii and Wii U.

You Implied that Console gaming wasn't declining in Japan but people would rather only buy Nintendo consoles instead, and i simply presented the last 2 non-handleld Nintendo Consoles that either Failed *Wii U* or were slightly Above PS3 in Sales *Wii* (Despite PS3 being a Bulky, way more Expensive Console at the time).

Sounds like too much effort to prove something that you aren't fully contesting yourself, hence why you say "almost all deals" and "mostly towards Xbox, not Switch."

Wii sales of ~12.5m didn't have anything to do with a decline in interest in console gaming, that was because of sparse third party support which in turn hurt momentum. Wii U sales of ~3.5m do not demonstrate a general decline in interest in console gaming either, because the Wii U failed everywhere in the world.

Gen over gen Japan won't show a major decline. It's going to be within a few million.

Gen 8: ~24m (3DS) + ~9.5m (PS4) + ~6m (PSV) + ~3.5m (Wii U) + ~100k (XB1) = ~43m
Gen 9 (projected): 30m+ (Switch) + ~8m (PS5) + ~200k (XSX|S) = 38.2m+

Nintendo's sales going up while Sony's get split roughly in half point to the conclusion that Nintendo is taking away gamers from Sony. Which would hardly be a surprise with a greater number of small Japanese third parties shifting to multiplatform development instead of making their games only for PlayStation.

"PS sales aren't declining in Japan because of a major loss of interest in console gaming, they are declining because people buy Nintendo consoles instead."

@"Quote" They aren't declining from a major loss of interest in console gaming but they aren't declining because people are buying Nintendo consoles instead...

Using Vgchartz for simplicity sake, and XB always assumed at remaining 1% or less. (no PS2)

end of 2006- Nintendo: 79%, Sony 20%

2007- Nintendo: 71%, Sony 28%

2008- Nintendo: 59%, Sony 40%

2009- Nintendo: 59%, Sony 40%

2010- Nintendo: 50%, Sony 49%

2011- Nintendo: 59%, Sony 40%

2012- Nintendo: 70%, Sony 29%

2013- Nintendo: 70%, Sony 29%

2014- Nintendo: 58%, Sony 41%

2015- Nintendo: 56%, Sony 43%

2016- Nintendo: 70%, Sony 29%

2017- Nintendo: 68%, Sony 31%

2018- Nintendo: 79%, Sony 20%

 end of 2019 to date- Nintendo: 88%, Sony 11%

Nintendo has always held dominance aside from when the PSP came out, and while the PSV held the tide a bit, it succumbed quickly. The big difference is 2019, but that is simply because Sony doesn't have handhelds anymore, and sales are bad during console transitions. If the imaginary PSV 2 sold only 1m, then the marketshare would be 75%/24%. Overall the marketshare is rather stable up to this point. The next years could change that.

@ Switch 30m, what is your yearly breakdown for that?