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Bofferbrauer2 said:
vivster said:
JEMC said:
Of course it won't be DLSS, because that's Nvidia only. AMD will use Microsoft's DirectML to try to get similar results. And since that will help MSoft with their console, they'll try to get it working as soon as possible.

It seems AMD hasn't jumped yet at the idea of dedicated cores for auxiliary functions like Nvidia has. So I doubt we can expect anything beyond some post processing half accelerated by hardware. It's why AMD's RT performance is so bad right now, because it takes away cores from rasters.

That's why I'm also kinda pissed that AMD is harping so much on that power efficiency, which of course is much better if you don't waste space and power on RT and Tensor cores. I would like to see some power efficiency graphs with DLSS and RT turned on.

Bofferbrauer2 said:
vivster said:

Oh come on guys, nobody here actually believes AMD will have something even close to DLSS in the works, do you? There is a huge difference between image sharpening guesswork and DL algorithms. Or maybe someone can show me those hidden Tensor cores in RDNA2.

AMD will have "something", but it won't be DLSS. At least not in this generation.

I'm not really expecting it to be anywhere on par with DLSS, and the technique employed is different. I'm just saying that AMD is working on it's own equivalent and that we have no idea how good (as in, DLSS right now) or bad (as in, DLSS at release) it will be.

DLSS 1.0 wasn't that bad. If AMD can whip up something on their first try as performant as DLSS 1.0 I'd be impressed.

Erm... what?

If you set the resolution by hand to match the framerate you got with DLSS 1.0, you got the same framerate with a better, clearer picture. In other words, DLSS made it worse than you could do by yourself. Why do you think everybody ridiculed DLSS at release?

Might've been selective memory on my part. Had a look back at old benchmarks and what I remembered was mostly the not insignificant performance increase at the same or maybe slightly worse sharpness. I don't think it's entirely true that DLSS made things worse than native at the same performance. DLSS1.0 might not have looked as great, but the performance gain was undeniable.

Which brings me back to AMD. What kind of technology will they employ to increase performance at the same sharpness?



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