MS CFO Tim Stuart defends throwing MTX into $70 games.

[sales2099]

Gears 5 is a fantastic campaign. So much detail, coop, and all the bells and whistles of a AAA game. And it has a full scale multiplayer suite. With many updates over the last year. All free. You can downplay the effort it takes to make everything but point stands that it’s extra effort that should entitle them to compensation. Again it’s optional, cosmetic, and not pay to win. It’s done right. 

Sure sales, because since Sony is not making MP games (let's pretend here, because we know that isn't true) then only MS is doing them? He couldn't be x

The idea is to do it right. Gears 5, Sea of Thieves... all cosmetic, optional, non pay to win. NM Game Pass largely nullifies the upfront costs day 1. 

If we make the cut to include every Sony game that sold better than the average Xbox exclusive then well it would accept all those "minor" titles, right?

Your suggestion has to take into account the vast marketshare disparity, which ultimately has odds stacked against Xbox considerably. Also that Xbox measures “players” and not sold due to Game Pass. Too many variables to do what you offer.

Do what you like, I’m just listing near universal top tier games. Best of the best, and a clear pattern emerges. Can’t argue that. Doesn’t really address my core message though. 

You are on VGC time enough to know that the difference on the number of consoles sold don't directly translate to number of SW sold. If you want simple examples look at Mario Kart on WiiU and multiply the HW base to the same size of Wii or Switch userbase and you'll see it wouldn't sell that much, or you can look at BotW that had over 100% attach ratio for several months on Switch, but did that sustain over time? Nope. But sure if you want to blame all on userbase aren't Xbox games also on PC so they should have even more than PS4 userbase right? Or if you want to consider just console, where is the Xbox titles that are doing 10M on Xbox to compare to the 20M on PS4?

You do know why MS hides consoles sold and SW sold and only talk about MAU and number of players that tried a game on GP, don't you?

GTS is still among the best PS titles and have MP. UC4 have it (and is near 20M sold). GoT have it. So you are just wrong on multiple levels.

Actually it does. PS3 exclusives sold poorly relative to Xbox. PS4 exclusives sold great relative to Xbox. The reason I don’t see GTS listed among the all time greats is it’s 70s range metascore. Not my fault people don’t list it. Either way you sidetracking, take it up with people who make these lists.  

Of the games I listed only Uncharted and GoT kinda having one is still a quarter of the games I listed. Bloodborne, Infamous, GoW, Spiderman, Horizon, LOU2 (for now). I wouldn’t dispute this, it’s there. You better off owning it/being proud of it (if that’s what you into). 

Edit: Then you have Spiderman MM, Demon Souls, Ratchet, Returnal, Horizon FW, GoW Ragnarok. Only game with multiplayer is GT7, and you bet your ass it will have DLC. 

Last edited by sales2099 - on 19 November 2020