A French teacher beheaded, chaos ensues, EU warns Turkey of sanctions

[Eagle367]

Imaginedvl said:

Eagle367 said:

I would just suggest you read the post above and also learn history and context of politics and why the middle east is the way it is and also learn about islam.

You do not need to suggest anything, I understand the context of the middle east and why it is how it is there (as much as I could at least) and as you keep calling Macron names, telling me that I need to learn or calling this other guy a "bigot" is not really helping your cause either.

The conversation is about France and other "western" countries where the problem is. And the fact that there is a history and "reason" for those countries to be like that does not make them less barbaric, I'm not even sure why you are telling me to "learn" more about it like this would make it different...
When something like that happens (way too often, and my country has been the target of many of those attacks in the past years (France)).
By crisis, Macron is telling this: The Islamic church needs to step up.

Why is that so offending to you. You keep saying how appealed the Islam church was when this happened in Nice, well guess what, nobody really saw that and that is one of the main issues (not saying it was not true, but the reality is that we just saw little of it from the outside world and this is part of the problem).

Because of those countries that are letting things go barbaric for any reason and when the religion is so intricate within politics, it completely overshadow any good will or act from Islamic leaders over the worlds that are BY FAR in minority at the end.

You keep calling Muslim countries barbaric when the real barbarism is the US starting a war in Iraq that killed a million plus Muslims. You also forget US, Saudi and Pakistan had a hand in creating the Al Qaeda and making them more even open to suicide which is against Islam. You also forget that the most affected people from the scummy terrorists are Muslims. For every attack in France, there are a few dozen to even hundreds in countries like Pakistan. And as I said even with vast overexxageration, only 20% does not a consensus make. Plus I told you to learn because usually knowledge is the best recipe for meaningless hate.

But I am sick and tired of my religion being used by scum for their own goals and also being attacked and used and mischaracterized by bad faith actors in the west while our community suffers the most from these scum acts. Like the west invades us and terrorists also kill us and then our religion is attacked as well. We are the followers of Islam and we know what our religion is, not terrorists or the west. It is not a religion in crisis and we can talk about it ourselves. We don't need white saviours. We define our religion and we are the ones that keep saying terrorists are not right about Islam but you all choose to believe the 0.005% who are scum instead of the 99.995%