Imaginedvl said:
Eagle367 said:
Macron is a big idiot who would be the most stupid leader if it wasn't for Modhi, Imran Khan, Netenyahu, Bolsanaro, Bolsanaro and Trump. Trudeau is smarter than Macron, Merkel is smarter than Macron and the new Zealand PM is most certainly smarter and up there as the most sensible one. Macron is a Jackass
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Well. So far I was just reading all of your replies (I prefer not to take part in politic/religion discussion) but this last post is just over the top so here it is and I have to say that I’m writing this while I’m upset so I try to stay civil but the first thing you said was so wrong:
- As you started this in your very first post. Nice attack had nothing to do with the extreme right. And this is a pure lie (and I usually use this word very cautiously) to try to say otherwise, ‘mate’. The attack came from an Islamic extremist (Mohamed Lahouaei-Bouhlel), and while you have the right to believe otherwise or maybe believe in a conspiracy, do not try to spread misinformation by saying it “has been confirmed”. Because no one did and will ever. We know 100% who is responsible for the attack AND the motive (Islamic extremism). And the fact that you are trying to push for this narrative from the start, did not help your cause at all and it probably stopped your posts from being credible to me after that (So I may be biased toward you now, I admit it).
- Regarding Islam in crisis. Many people mentioned this in the thread already, but I also believe the religion is in crisis and your reaction to this while not being as radical as what happened to this poor teacher shows why. The world changed.. A lot in the past decencies and even centuries. Religions did not (plural here) and while SOME of them are adapting, some others are not and you can see it in the majority of the Muslim countries where things are quite different than any developed countries out there and the majority of the way women/people/crimes/’showing a drawing a Mohamed’ is being handled way differently than it would be in France, Canada, USA, etc… You are stuck on insulting Macron for his words post after post while instead you should be looking around you and see what is going on.
- Like the over-reaction to the drawing (obviously killing someone for that is completely out of proportion), Macron said that Islam is in crisis all over the world and he is right. I mean, on what planet are you been living for the past 50 years? The majority of the Mulsim countries are barbaric from the rest of the developed countries. And while some of them are definitely getting better (and also, let’s not forget poverty is not helping their cause) there are not evolving, and they are doing that in the name of Islam. You keep saying that “extremist” is a minority when those countries are representing the majority of the Islam world. And you can see that after the backlash from Macron.
- “Macron is an idiot”. And then you bring Trudeau as being smarter? You are talking out of your ass buddy. You do not like what Macron said and now you are on a crusade and keep saying that he is an idiot, moron etc. Fine, but please do not compare him to other leaders when you clearly do not know anything about them other than what you see on the Internet. I can tell you that being French/Canadian, Trudeau is very very very low in my list.
To end: Someone lost his life for showing a ‘drawing’ buddy. And you are offended because the president of the country that is affected by those terror attacks (and I am talking specifically from Islam extremists) is responding to it with few words? I believe I’m not racist and that I am very tolerant, but I am now part of those who definitely believe that the religion needs a change (call it "reform" if you want) or this will just get worse. And for having lived in France for 20 years (in Paris), I can tell you that you just do not understand the other end of the spectrum (the people at the receiving hand like this teacher). Reforming and changing something does not mean that every Muslim are terrorists but there is definitely something that makes this religion in today's world just prone to bring more extremism (as proven by all those attacks) and this needs to change.
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I would just suggest you read the post above and also learn history and context of politics and why the middle east is the way it is and also learn about islam. Macron should also learn about crisis management and also you should look at how Muslims react to terror attacks by scums like the people that murdered the teacher or the attack in Nice. And yeah I made a mistake on that it was actually the attack somewhere else that was done by the far right.
And that's my point of Macron being an idiot. If you wanna avoid a war between far right loons and people that only find extreme radical stuff in their religions because they are so full of hate. And I know Trudeau is not a good leader but even he is better than Macron. That was my point pal. Macron is a world leader and should choose his words carefully because his words matter. Muslims are reacting with what many displeased people do, through boycott and not by murder. Otherwise you would have bloodshed like never before. Even if 1 Muslim killed half a person, that would be 1 billion people around the world dead. The ridiculousness of claiming Islam is not a religion of peace and in crisis by the behaviour of at most( a ridiculous overexxageration in fact) of 20% of Muslims is just stupid and moronic as all hell. That is why I'm calling Macron an idiot.
