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Runa216 said:
chakkra said:

I think at this point you guys should come to terms with the fact that there is absolutely nothing you could say to Runa216. His disappointment with Xbox is just way too deep for any of us.

Anything you guys can say? Naw. You have absolutely no bearing on what Microsoft does in the next 5-8 years. I've been presented with all the evidence, exposed to 10 years of experience, and have not been impressed with anything they've done outside of Ori and Cuphead for the past 10 years (Both of which are on Switch and Cuphead is on PS4). The only thing that'll change my mind is if Microsoft actually fulfills the potential they've been promising for the last decade and entirely too many of you are absolutely certain of.

I gave them a chance. I got an Xbox, barely used it. I got an Xbox 360, bought more games for it than PS2, but it broke within 2 years and I had to get it replaced. Bought an Xbox One within a year of launch and used it less for gaming than I did updating the firmware. They've done nothing in the past 20 years to impress me, and at their absolute best they were unable to outdo Sony at their worst in terms of console sales. They HAD some great franchises, but they seem incapable of making new ones and the ones they do have have been going downhill. 

They lack in quality titles. 9/10 1st party games in 2020 are rated high

They lack in quantity or frequency of release. 10 1st party games in 2020. At least do your homework. 

They lack in diversity (All their stuff is heavily and exclusively USA/western focused) says the guy who only plays “single player story driven 3rd person action adventure” ;)

They focus on things I don't give a shit about (GamePass and Backwards compatibility) Fair enough but I wouldn’t dismiss respecting gaming history and saving money with day 1 first party games. 

And the Xbox has literally no exclusives. Aside from multiplat deals MS is honouring they are exclusively NOT on PlayStation. We all know that’s all that matters.

My issue isn't so much with Microsoft as a whole, but Xbox. I have 0 reasons to get an Xbox. I have very few reasons to get Gamepass, and the games does own are so homogenized in terms of look and feel that I just don't see myself getting anything that isn't Bethesda-developed. Of all their franchises, the only things I care about are Elder Scrolls and Fallout. I like new Doom but I don't care about it. And unlike Sony, they can't seem to make new IPs work or get the sort of fame that stuff like Horizon or Bloodborne or Ghost of Tsushima. They can't make new franchises, they can barely keep the franchises they have performing at a high level, and I don't think there's much of anything that some random forumgoer can tell me that'll make me completely change my values. 

Until Microsoft actually delivers on those promises - something they historically have not really done a great job doing - I will continue to be soured on the brand. And no, releasing Grounded is not enough. The list people have been giving about all the great games on the platform have me scratching my head, thinking 'wait, that actually came out?' only to google it and find that most people didn't give a shit. 

They have nothing. Not yet. I will gladly change my stance if new evidence is presented, but until that happens they're useless and completely not to my tastes. I'm not buying a console for like 5 games when I can get them all on PC. 

“games does own are so homogenized in terms of look and feel” Because Ori, Minecraft Dungeons, Flight SIM, Wasteland 3 all look and feel the same. Got it.

Otherwise...yawn. You just say the same tired 2 tiered approach.

1. MS hurt me I won’t trust them again. 
2. Anything tangible they are doing and the billions they are spending mean nothing to me and I will continue to ignore and change the subject. 

(like how releasing 10 1st party games in one year with critical acclaim doesn’t impress you because they aren’t popular enough)



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles.