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sales2099 said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

The first article is from 2017. I'm sure they were somewhat profitable back then, since Gamepass wasn't full steam yet.

The second article doesn't list profits but rather revenue.

From Investopedia: Revenue is known as the top line because it appears first on a company's income statement. Net income, also known as the bottom line, is revenues minus expenses. There is a profit when revenues exceed expenses.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/revenue.asp

I'd just like proof that Gamepass turns a profit. That's all.

https://screenrant.com/microsoft-xbox-one-console-sales-low-fiscal-2020/amp/

“This net profit in gaming revenue is the result of “Xbox content and service revenue[being] up $943 million, or 11%.” Minecraft, third-party games, and subscription growth were responsible for this improvement, as was higher engagement brought about by COVID-19 lockdowns. Aug 3 2020.”

Quick google search. Xbox division on the whole is profitable. You make the mistake of thinking Game Pass is by its lonesome in making or losing money. By all accounts it brings in more money via DLC purchases for games people wouldn’t have played otherwise. As well as recommending to non GP users. Thinking of profit purely in terms of just sub revenue is reductive. 

And this is them making a profit while in 3rd place. New gen means faster growth and more profit if they get things right. 

The original source for that information is from here: https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2020-07-31-microsofts-full-year-gaming-revenues-nearly-flat-for-fiscal-2020

And I don't see any mention of profit in the gameindustry.biz article.

I don't mean to be a dick, but where exactly in MS's full year financials does it say that the Xbox division made a profit this year?

Last edited by Cerebralbore101 - on 04 October 2020