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smroadkill15 said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

@bolded. That's the thing though. Nobody knows how much it is costing them. Nobody knows whether they are paying a percentage of revenue, a one time flat fee, or a recurring flat fee. Nobody on these forums can prove that Gamepass actually turns a profit. MS refuses to divulge that information. They've also refused to divulge Total XBL Gold usersLifetime Total Sales of Certain Games, and Lifetime Total Sales of Xbox 1. What do those three pieces of information have in common? They are embarrassing to MS. If Gamepass was actually turning a profit MS would shout it from the rooftops. Their silence is damning evidence that it's a moneypit.

I mean, does it really matter how much MS pays each developer? We've already found out MS pays developers a one time fee for each game, and that amount varies on the game. 

This is a lot of information that really shouldn't even be our concern. This is MS after all, the trillion dollar company. If Gamepass, Xbox, and those other numbers were so terrible, Satya Nadella wouldn't be so support of Xbox considering now gaming is one of the main Pillars of MS, and how much they have been investing.

Btw, Xbox was profitable this gen so it couldn't have been that embarrassing. 

@Bolded Source?