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Cerebralbore101 on 29 September 2020
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sales2099 said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

100 million Steam users + 50 Million Xbox users + 15 million Gamepass users < 100 million Steam users + 50 Million Xbox users +15 Million Gamepass users + 110 Million Playstation users + 70 Million Switch users. Android is irrelevant. If you seriously think phone games are good or worthwhile, then you need to turn in your hardcore gamer card.

Not to mention that Steam users often are Xbox users, and Xbox users often are Gamepass users. There's going to be some overlap there. Overlap is much less likely with Playstation users.

Finally, Gamepass isn't sustainable without drastically raising the price. If you can show me the internal Xbox numbers proving otherwise please do.




Lol what? First time I heard that. The general idea is that invested PC gamers have little use for a Xbox console these days if Steam, Windows Store and PC Game Pass gets all the 1st party content. Been like this for over 4 years. 

The stereotype is that PC gamers either have a Switch or a PS. “Why get a Xbox when I can play all their games on PC” is a tried and true battlecry from the PS camp haha. 

Frankly, PC and Xbox console is big enough for what they got coming. We don’t need to share and frankly it’s a little funny that the most proud faction in gaming is asking Xbox (!?!?) for ports of their 1st party games. Try saying that sentiment 2 years ago and not get laughed out of the internet ;)

Also you forget Game Pass isn’t the sole income for Xbox. Full purchases on Xbox console, Steam, and Windows Store pick up the slack for upfront, short term income. Xbox games dominated the Steam charts for many months of the year earlier. By itself GP may or may not be sustainable. Good thing the entire ecosystem helps each other out. 

Ha! Okay, I take back the overlap argument there.

Who are those PS users asking for ports? I'll be Switch/PC next gen.

What are the total sales of an Xbox console exclusive on Steam + Xbox + Windows Store? Has Xbox ever even released that information? As braggadocious as Phil Spencer is I really am left wondering why he hasn't announced these epic amazing sales totals.

We know that Nintendo and Sony games sell 10-15+ million. We know Witcher 3 has done 20+ million. Where's the "Forza sold 20+ million on Xbox + PC combined!" announcement? I mean, if Xbox is working with double the customers of PS4, why haven't their 1st party offerings sold double that of PS4 exclusives?