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Cerebralbore101 said:
zero129 said:

Wow... Just WOW!. This whole thing really does have some Sony fans not thinking about what they are saying.

Yeah.... no way could an install base of 100+ million steam users and growing, 50+ Million Xbox users and growing, 15+ million Gamepass subs and growing and can grow much bigger now its also on android that also has an install base of over 100+ million ever make back them sales.

100 million Steam users + 50 Million Xbox users + 15 million Gamepass users < 100 million Steam users + 50 Million Xbox users +15 Million Gamepass users + 110 Million Playstation users + 70 Million Switch users. Android is irrelevant. If you seriously think phone games are good or worthwhile, then you need to turn in your hardcore gamer card.

Not to mention that Steam users often are Xbox users, and Xbox users often are Gamepass users. There's going to be some overlap there. Overlap is much less likely with Playstation users.

Finally, Gamepass isn't sustainable without drastically raising the price. If you can show me the internal Xbox numbers proving otherwise please do.




Lol what? First time I heard that. The general idea is that invested PC gamers have little use for a Xbox console these days if Steam, Windows Store and PC Game Pass gets all the 1st party content. Been like this for over 4 years. 

The stereotype is that PC gamers either have a Switch or a PS. “Why get a Xbox when I can play all their games on PC” is a tried and true battlecry from the PS camp haha. 

Frankly, PC and Xbox console is big enough for what they got coming. We don’t need to share and frankly it’s a little funny that the most proud faction in gaming is asking Xbox (!?!?) for ports of their 1st party games. Try saying that sentiment 2 years ago and not get laughed out of the internet ;)

Also you forget Game Pass isn’t the sole income for Xbox. Full purchases on Xbox console, Steam, and Windows Store pick up the slack for upfront, short term income. Xbox games dominated the Steam charts for many months of the year earlier. By itself GP may or may not be sustainable. Good thing the entire ecosystem helps each other out. 



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles.