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ArchangelMadzz said:
sales2099 said:

Like I said they aren’t 2006 Sony. But by comparison they certainly asking for more money when compared to what Xbox is doing. And they are far from as transparent. 

They are asking for more money, 100%. It would be anti consumer if Microsoft's model was Sony's model last gen and now they decide they want to charge money for each game. But that's not what happened here. MS is doing their own very expensive thing, and to call Sony anti-consumer for not copying them is illogical at best. 

It's like if Samsung started including 2 spare batteries, and chucked in a smaller version of the phone in for free. You couldn't call Oneplus anti consumer cause they can't afford to do that ahaha.

Never said it’s necessarily logical. Consumers will see the side by side comparisons regardless of their different approaches. 

Xbox controllers carry over, Dual Shock doesn’t. Sony charges for Spiderman remaster, Xbox 1st party upgrades are free. One has a relaxed stance on B.C. and Xbox goes all the way back to OG Xbox. One doesn’t put their exclusives on their sub service day 1 and the other does. One puts their games on PC case by case years later and Xbox does Windows Store/Steam day 1. One $499 console is weaker specs then the Xbox $499 console. One is transparent and the other is best case vague and worst case misleading.

This ain’t 2006 but it’s clear who’s more pro consumer. 



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles.