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Barkley on 28 September 2020
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Pyro as Bill said:
DirtyP2002 said:
When asked about if we'll be seeing any of the ZeniMax games on other consoles Phil says:

"...as the Xbox community, what they should feel is this is a huge investment in the experiences that they're going to have in the Xbox ecosystem. We want the Xbox ecosystem to be the absolutely best place to play, and we think game availability is absolutely a part of that."

Quote from Phil Dpencer straight from the yahoo interview

Anyone who thinks MS needs to put Bethesda games on PS5 to make back the money on their investment hasn't run the numbers imo.

~10m GP subscribers is enough to deliver a AAA game per month and break even.

~60m GP subscribers is enough to buy a Zenimax every year

You haven't run the numbers correctly. You're assuming that 100% of the subscription money is profit for Microsoft it is not. They do not make $10.8 Billion profit a year from 60m subscribers, we can't assume it's even $7.5 billion.

The subscription from gamepass ultimate includes gold, thus that money is being used for where that goes (server maintenance, games with gold etc)

Gamepass ultimate includes third party titles, so more of that money is going to third party publishers.

Gamepass ultimate includes EA Play now, so money from it is going to that.

Gamepass ultimate includes XCloud, so money from it is going to running these cloud systems.

No 10m subscribers does not give microsoft $150 Million to spend on a AAA game and 60 million does not give them $10.8 billion to spend every year, not even close.

Spending $15 on gamepass utlimate does not give MS $15 to spend. That money goes to gold server maintenance, xcloud, third parties and now EA access too.

The actual money MS get from gamepass could be as little as $2 a month from subscribers or as high as $10 a month, we literally do not know because we don't know how much money they are giving to third parties or for ea access or running costs for xcloud or etc etc etc. But MS themselves have already said it's not super profitable for them at the moment.

Though one figure we do seem to have, MS gave Capcom $19 Million to get Devil May Cry 5 on gamepass. One third party game.

Last edited by Barkley - on 28 September 2020