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--------------------------------------------------------------------------- everybody keeps citing this 10% figure... telling me it's been that way "forever" and that "everybody" knows about this, and it's the way "everybody" does it. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- So prove them wrong. The burden of proof is on you. You're the one trying to prove the figures are wrong. So produce some evidence! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- However, NOBODY can show me where they are getting this, and I can't find anything to support that notion. I also can't find anything to suggest that Mexico is included in the 10%. And as you stated in your last post, you deem Mexico "unimportant". And, while I can't find any exact figures, I would say evidence points that that isn't true (an official launch, an "emerging" country in video game sales, a recent big event to launch a single game (Viva Pinata), etc... ) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Look, Mexican numbers don't exist. Its great that the 360 officially launched there, and that some source used the word "emerging." But you don't have any hard data either way. All we've got is speculation going back and forth, but again, the burden of proof is on the accuser. Its very convenient for you to have finally settled on a bunch of numbers you can't find to claim this site is misrepresenting them. That way, this can go on forever. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have no problem with that "out of date" theory, but it would definitely be nice if vgcharts displayed a rough idea of when the stats are up to date through. For all we know, they could be showing the totals for Dec 1st, right? How would we know any different? One of the problems with this debate is that the numbers have changed about 3 times since we started, and we're now 10 days into January... if the figures are up to date (as some suggest they are), then it's about impossible to argue their NA figure as I am no seeing that I have NO idea what vgcharts is reporting as its Dec 31st NA number anymore!!! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for reiterating my point. Wish you had realized that earlier. We could still hit "pause" until vgcharts posts a December estimate, eh? The NPD US numbers will no doubt be circling the web later tonight...



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