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Machiavellian said:
DonFerrari said:

Not sure where you got that I think MS pay full price for devs by the number of users on the base. I do know how Sony do with PS+ and it is more likely similar to how it is done on GP and PSNow. The dev and Sony have an idea of the remaining sales potential of that title that have been out for couple of years and also the potential new sales it could get from being show on PS+ "marketing". From that they remove potential sales lost by offering it for free on that platform. And them negotiate the money exchange to cover that loss and give the dev a little extra cash.

And will you say that a series with 10 seasons and 24 episodes per season won't have more staying power for sub than a single movie of 2h? It is impossible to deny that the model of GP (even more for day one launches) is made to be sustained on GAAS, episodic and Multiplayer games not on single player games that you finish in a week. Because let`s say Sony done the same as MS, even if you have 3 masterpieces on the service per year someone that is just wanting to get the juicy out of it will have the signature for a month or two during the year and be able to play those 3 games for 20 USD instead of 180USD. If you think that doesn`t impact revenue I don`t know what to tell you.

I believe we need to first get some terms correct here.  Gamepass is not a GAAS. You seem to be trapped in this thinking and that is probably why you keep bringing it up and using it as the business model.  Gamepass is a subscription service for games which is the same as PSNow.  The difference is that MS is including MS console and PC games to the service, including cloud play on mobil and probably going to do other devices as well.  The difference between the 2 service is the breath that MS is looking to take gamepass and not lock it to just being a Xbox service.  

Now that we got that part out of the way since I do believe you already know it.  Lets remove the whole GAAS part out since this is not the business model being used for the service.  This is why when you make statements that it will need to use GAAS business model it doesn't make sense and is incorrect.  Yes, someone could pontentially just get the service for a month and play one or 2 games they want then end their sub.  People could do the same thing with Netflix and other subs that do the same thing, the question is why do they continue their sub.  Because if you continue to bring out content, they will continue their sub.  Once you get the sub and quit you only get to do that once.  The next time you do not get the free option as you probably should know.  

You do not understand the business model nor does it seems you comprehend human nature.  If what you state was true, then Netflix, Hulu and all the other subs would have gone out of business a long time ago.

No need to clarify GP is no GAAS, I know what it is and I know what GAAS is. What I said and perhaps you sidewalked it is that GAAS model is the type of game that works better on subscription platform, just as series work better than movies for streaming services. And no it isn`t the same as PSNow. PSNow could be said to be the equivalent of what XCloud+GP became (still there were games that you could play by having the sub and others you need to pay specifically for that game). Main difference is that GP have day one for all MS games while PSNow only include some Sony games and long after release, and it is also available on PC in case you don`t know. Not sure if it changed or not, but If you used PSNow on PS4 to play PS4 games you could opt to play offline.

Since you want to keep the intention that "I don`t understand BM, human, etc" let`s just stop this conversation before it gets aggravated. But keep also pretending MS games are focussed on MP while Sony is focussed on SP, or which had much more sales to lose going for a day one subs model. Bye.



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