PS5 Showcase - Wednesday Sept 16

[DonFerrari]

coolbeans said:

DonFerrari said:

Read two times and there really isn`t anything in that one could interpret as Sony wouldn`t make any crossgen game. You know Sony makes MBL and at least that game would be crossgen as sports titles are for the longest period.

For me his phrasing is very clear and true, they believe in gens and will make games that take use of the new features only possible on next gen. And as presented earlier from 9 announced titles 6 are exclusives to next gen, seems like he is delivering on what he was talking.

Okay.  If so clear and concise about their framing of potential cross-gen games then why would you even be cagey about that with Miles Morales or Horizon II for so long?  You can't disregard the context surrounding that.  I'd have been savaged for locking in a prediction of Horizon II being available on PS4 just a few days ago.  

If you're standing by it?  Fine.  But I feel the need to re-emphasize this point with a question: if you see no deception when considering all of the elements I've brought up for Jim Ryan's quote, do you find any mal-intent in Microsoft's past framing of "Console Launch Exclusives" during events?  Because if you were to re-read that, it seems like another way of saying timed exclusive for consoles.  

If you say no to that question?  Alright then.  As I said, I'm not fully committed to the "liar, liar" accusation.  But I still see a bit of weasely-ness to the whole thing; then again, they're kinda paid to do that.

They were cagey? I guess you have been following MS for so long that you are missing things. MS leadership have been desperate for the spotlight that they have interviews, news and tweets almost everyday regarding Series X and Series S. Sony in comparison have basically had their 2 events for PS5 and one for PS4 and PSVR in the past several months. And the blog with the post with the information.

I don`t remember any thread that discussed HFW being crossgen or not. And you being savaged by people (link please) doesn`t mean Sony said anything of the sort, just that those people assumed it. Funny enough is that you are claiming Sony done something but you were locking HFW as crossgen, how would you do that if Sony had given any certainty that it no game would be crossgen?

MS said all exclusives would be crossgen for the next 2 years, at least one game isn`t, so he wasn`t true on exact quote. You are trying to equate two things that are nothing alike. And you still weren`t able to point out where precisely have Sony said what you think they said. The quote you posted was exact on they believe in generations and that they want a fast transition, how would that in any universe mean "all games launched after November by Sony will be PS5 exclusive"?

Don`t try to weasel yourself out of it. You made the claim and accusation but didn`t meet the burden of proof. Either retract that you were wrong or provide evidence. Saying "well I accused him of lying, but I didn`t mean it" doesn`t really stick.

KratosLives said:

DonFerrari said:
If there are people that accuse Sony of lying about TLOU2 because Joel was in the trailer (so they decided that it should mean you would play extensively with him) so why not wouldn`t people accuse Sony of lying even though they never said all their games would be next gen, they just said they believe in gens and want to make a very fast transition, that really wasn`t disproven or anything. Well there is people accusing Sony of lying when they said the rumour of they reducing the production from 16M to 11M due to yields of 50% and that they would price consoles 399 and 449.

Yeah they said all games developed on next gen hardware post launch will be for ps5 only. But games that have already been in production 

Even that I would like a direct quote, because what was brought didn't even got close to that.