PS5 Showcase - Wednesday Sept 16

[DonFerrari]

coolbeans said:

DonFerrari said:
If there are people that accuse Sony of lying about TLOU2 because Joel was in the trailer (so they decided that it should mean you would play extensively with him) so why not wouldn`t people accuse Sony of lying even though they never said all their games would be next gen, they just said they believe in gens and want to make a very fast transition, that really wasn`t disproven or anything. Well there is people accusing Sony of lying when they said the rumour of they reducing the production from 16M to 11M due to yields of 50% and that they would price consoles 399 and 449.

Speaking as someone who found the TLOU II "lies" accusations kinda silly, I think there's greater weight in regards to Ryan's cross-gen language.

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2020-05-29-sonys-jim-ryan-its-time-to-give-fans-something-that-can-only-be-enjoyed-on-playstation-5

"We have always said that we believe in generations. We believe that when you go to all the trouble of creating a next-gen console, that it should include features and benefits that the previous generation does not include. And that, in our view, people should make games that can make the most of those features.

"We do believe in generations, and whether it's the DualSense controller, whether it's the 3D audio, whether it's the multiple ways that the SSD can be used... we are thinking that it is time to give the PlayStation community something new, something different, that can really only be enjoyed on PS5."

His quote appears to have been broached by the interviewer with the contrast of Microsoft's 'Xbox Family/1-2 years' statements made previously so... there's some pretty strong insinuations here along with how hush-hush they were on cross-gen during their reveal event.  Lies by omission are still a thing.  Does Ryan cross that threshold worthy of being outright lambasted?  It's... dicey to say the least.

I'll put it this way: if anyone here is quick to complain about MS' oh-so-deceptive "Xbox Launch Exclusive" tagline they've used at events, you have no leg to stand on if you're defending Ryan here.  The framing they initially established, the first event's focus, and their hush-hush attitude about this until the credits end looks worse than that imo.  

The funny thing is... both sides 'lying' would be more of what I want anyways.  It's a consideration between business & creative ambitions that makes Sony's mix-n-match look better.  If some of your devs have such astute understanding of last-gen's hardware that they can manage being cross-gen?  By all means.  If you're pleading with your corporate overlords about some ambitious idea where SSD & a not-lackluster CPU is required?  Push them to next-gen only.  I hate how MS put themselves into that kind of corner so early.

Read two times and there really isn`t anything in that one could interpret as Sony wouldn`t make any crossgen game. You know Sony makes MBL and at least that game would be crossgen as sports titles are for the longest period.

For me his phrasing is very clear and true, they believe in gens and will make games that take use of the new features only possible on next gen. And as presented earlier from 9 announced titles 6 are exclusives to next gen, seems like he is delivering on what he was talking.