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Intrinsic on 17 September 2020
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sales2099 said:

This sounds like damage control. You can’t say “we believe in generations”, show games only on PS5 and then low key slip in that they are cross gen. It makes sense, how a new install base can possibly make as much profit as a base of 110 million...but that’s not the point. Sony positioned themselves as the traditional alternative to MSs “leave nobody behind” approach. And now they are arguably worse offenders then Xbox. 

The difference between what Sony and MS are doing is that MS is transparent from the start where as Sony is being shady. Sure people like us are informed. But that damage is done and many casuals get a false message. 

You going on a nice rant saying they adapted and it’s for the greater good. That’s nice and all but what about all the flak Xbox got for their cross gen initiative? We just gonna forget about that and pretend PS fans weren’t smug and elitist? Narratives change on a dime and this is no exception. I’d appreciate you at least own up to it before you accept Sony doing a MeToo of what Xbox is doing. 

You can take it however you want to take it. But let's be honest here.

PS Studio Releases in the first year:

  1. GOW2 (PS5)
  2. Ratchet (PS5)
  3. Demon Soul's (PS5)
  4. Destruction All-Stars (PS5)
  5. Returnal (PS5)*
  6. GT7 (PS5)*
  7. SpiderMan:MM (PS5 + PS4)
  8. Sackboy Adventures (PS5 + PS4)
  9. Horizon FW (PS5 + PS4)

If those 9 games listed, only 3 of them are cross-gen. If that doesn't tell you that they are focusing on next-gen I don't know what else would. All only said was that they believe in generations, and went onto to say "f going to the trouble of making a new console they believe that they should give people reasons to buy it". 

That is very very very different from MS saying, we don't believe in generations and everything from us over the next 2 years will be cross-gen.

Now if your issue is the messaging, I am with you on that, and just like back in March, I will say it again, sony's messaging sucks. It not that they lie or are misleading, but they simply do not give enough information or information in a transparent way. Even with all this, right there on the PS Blog, they mention the only games that are going to be cross-gen but go about it in a way that leaves it open to interpretation. 

Either way, this is very different from what MS is doing and you know it. Look at it this way, Sony showed Spiderman and HFW, and showed off the next-gen versions of those games (which we know now cause we know they are cross-gen), and they "looked" next-gen. MS showed Halo and it looked last gen. That's why MS was getting flak. Looking at the games I mentioned, its easier to believe or convince someone that the PS cross-gen games were built for the PS5 than it is to convince someone that Halo infinite was built for the XSX.

And this thing about casuals, it's honestly a forum thing. The casuals do not care one bit. The thing has sold out everywhere and no one outside the forums talking about this shit. Hell, casuals are actually happy that they get to play spiderman on their PS4. 

*games rumored to be 2021 but maybe 2022.

One last thing, I will say it again, and I even said it here when I was of the impression DS was also rose gen that I would just hold out on buying a PS5 until GOW is released. If everything sony announced was slated to be cross-gen, I would not buy a PS5 anytime soon. And that sentiment still applies to Xbox, because everything they are pushing out is expected to be cross-gen.

Last edited by Intrinsic - on 17 September 2020