Staring into the abyss of a world where Nintendo has no games scheduled for release. Edit: The Time of Darkness Has Arrived

[Cerebralbore101]

RolStoppable said:

Cerebralbore101 said:

Rol, you are treating the thread as if it were a prediction thread. You need to prove that OP explicitly laid out goals at the start of the thread. Otherwise your claim of goalpost moving is hollow.

We are on the same page as far as TWEWY, Octopath, and Bravely Default II go. They really shouldn't count at all, when evaluating Nintendo.

Actually, I was being honest about Sony's 2020, because their lineup is impressive to me and many other gamers. I think you are one of the few that isn't impressed by it. It's a good thing that you agree that Nintendo's 2020 isn't impressive though. Perhaps you don't think it's an abysmal mess, like I do, but at least you aren't irrational enough to think it's an impressive year.

Wait, you seriously think Nintendo's 2020 output is better than Sony's? I already mentioned how there's lots of games that don't sell well initially, but eventually get remembered as all time classics. A game having haters is irrelevant to whether it is good or not. TLoU2 wasn't GotY material like the original, but it was still a great game, and definitely a must own. Miles Morales is not a DLC. It's a sequel, in the same sense that Bravely Second is a sequel to Bravely Default. Besides, even if it started life out as DLC, so did Super Mario Galaxy 2. If Switch owners will be more pleased, then Switch owners are easily pleased. Paper Mario hasn't been good since 2007 at best. A small Indie team managed to make a better Paper Mario game than Nintendo, with Bug Fables. Clubhouse games is just a bunch of card, and board games. Nothing interesting there. I remain cautiously optimistic about Age of Calamity, but let's not pretend that it's a sure thing. After all, it's a Musou game at it's core. Hopefully it is a great game. I guess we'll see.

The thread title and original post are unambiguous. The topic is that Nintendo was not having games scheduled for release and there were no arbitrary rules like quality of the games or a question whether the games were all-new, remakes or ports. Games scheduled for release was the only thing it was about. But that problem has been solved with now several Nintendo games having exact dates, so the thread is obsolete.

Of course Nintendo's output is better than Sony's. That's because I am not dismissing, for example, an all-time great like Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition because it's a remake nor do I dismiss Super Mario 3D Allstars. If haters are supposed to be irrelevant like you say, then all your personal complaints in this thread are moot, unless you want to insist on using double standards when comparing Nintendo and Sony. Nintendo will have released more well-received games than Sony in 2020, both critically and commercially. There's no good reason to doubt that.

Miles Morales is not comparable to Bravely Second or Super Mario Galaxy 2. Also, your idea that SMG2 started out as DLC is ridiculous, considering how limited the Wii's internal storage was. Nintendo did not release DLC for any of their major Wii games for that reason.

https://www.ign.com/articles/spider-man-miles-morales-ps5-coming-of-age-full-arc

Elsewhere in the interview, Insomniac reiterates that the Miles Morales game isn't a formal sequel to the first game, and that it's a "shorter spin-off, likened in scope to the Lost Legacy game in the Uncharted series."

The topic was that Nintendo didn't have any games scheduled for release at that moment in time. OP even said that it was likely to be remedied quickly. That doesn't equal a prediction that Nintendo wasn't going to have any games scheduled for release at all.

Ports and remakes are important, but they are far overshadowed in importance by actual new games. Suppose Nintendo stops making new games entirely. For the next 20 years, they just do ports and remakes.  Meanwhile other companies are making new games. Should Nintendo be regarded as having better output than any other game company in that hypothetical scenario?

Sorry about the SMG2 claim. I misremembered a decade old article from a gaming magazine. The initial title was SMG 1.5 or SMG More, or something like that. I likened that to DLC, incorrectly.

Torna is actually DLC, but I still count that as a great game for 2018, so I hope you can understand why I and others see Miles Morales as something worth mentioning. It's not DLC, but probably started off life that way at some point. Besides, I'd rather have a spin-off that has the core gameplay of the thing it's spinning off from, than what Age of Calamity is.

P.S. Fingers still crossed that Age of Calamity is actually good. Here's hoping!