Why do people think the Ps5 costs more to manufacture?!

[Pemalite]

DonFerrari said:

Pemalite said:

Not exactly. - It was clear that was a hardware design goal of the original Xbox One. - To be a hands-free "Home Theater" device... And the hardware was built around that concept in mind.

The cooling in the Original VCR Xbox One was over-engineered... And the size of the device in terms of volume took advantage of that, it was a big box.

The Xbox One X on the other-hand is definitely a solid piece of engineering and the Series X takes that same concept and runs with it a little further, Microsoft has been going big on efficient cooling since the Xbox One.

But not just efficient cooling, quiet cooling... Microsoft is avoiding the use of small, high-RPM fans to cool their consoles.

Engineering wise, I think both companies have proven to be fantastic...
So yes, whilst Microsoft had their RROD debacle...
Sony had the exploding batteries debacle.
Sony had the YLOD debacle.
The PS1 disc drive issues were common as well.

Shit happens... Microsoft and Sony learn from it though and we all benefit.

How can you say X1 had a efficient cooling if they needed a case that was bigger than PS4, while weaker and having the brick outside of it? Being quieter isn`t the same as being more efficient. As I`m pretty sure efficency is measured in other means, either power consumption versus output (like a GPU) or power versus cost, etc.

I am strictly speaking from a cooler perspective here, the Playstation 4 definitely had superior hardware and a more attractive form factor, not beating around the bush or pretending otherwise.

But the cooler in the Xbox One was reliable, it was silent... Because Microsoft made a *massive* case (Which half of it was pretty much venting) that could hold allot of air and the cooler could push around allot of air to keep everything cool.

In terms of efficiency I am talking about noise pollution and thermals here, the launch Xbox One was always running cooler and quieter... And yes a large portion of that is due to the large ugly box and weaker hardware.... But it's also due to the much much much larger, higher quality cooler... Heat dissipation is definitely a function of the amount of surface area (I.E. Size of the heatsink) and air flow. (I.E. Fan)

And the Xbox One had a massive chunk of metal keeping everything cool, where Sony opted for more of a blower-design with a smaller, higher RPM fan.

Playstation 4:



Xbox One:



There are advantages to both approaches, Sony's approach means they can have a smaller form factor and they can "channel" air flow to where they want, but it does mean for a more intricate construction of the device with higher noise and potentially thermals.

Xbox's approach is cheaper, quieter and will cool everything inside the housing... Plus because the fan is larger, it will operate at a lower RPM, which should increase the longevity of the fan.

Last edited by Pemalite - on 14 September 2020