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EricHiggin said:

vivster said:
So AMD has a 3080 killer ready to deploy but instead they wait until everyone has bought the Nvidia cards before they even reveal it? Doesn't sound very smart to me.

I'm guessing AMD being surprised when it comes to Ampere is literally super negative or positive. Meaning AMD didn't see this coming, or assumed Nvidia got the hint and would've turned up the heat.

I would think this means we're either getting another Polaris like situation, with quite good mid tier gaming performance for reasonable prices, or they're going to be quite competitive with Ampere in general. Last time during the mid gen console launch it was the Polaris situation, so with the the next gen console RDNA Navi launch approaching, it wouldn't be crazy to assume another similar scenario.

I've been assuming Big Navi is actually going to compete all around with Ampere, which is why I figured they wouldn't pounce immediately after Ampere was announced. No need to react immediately if you're not at a disadvantage. I also wouldn't be surprised if AMD is thinking they should teach some gamers a lesson who've been sucked into the pre order game for years now. Let Ampere launch, let it sell out, and then shortly after, explain your cards coming soon will perform similar if not better, at less cost to some degree.

If Big Navi really is worthy for the most part, and you buy a 3000 Series, assuming you're not a strict Nvidia fan, then find out shortly after you could have gotten more performance for cheaper, you wouldn't kick yourself for not waiting a little bit? This would be smart for the future when AMD may be at a significant disadvantage again. Instead of gamers ignoring Radeon and just instantly buying up GeForce cards as soon as they can, they will start to wait and see. At least for a while anyway, depending on whether AMD continues to deliver, or not like prior gens.

Hopefully I'm not wrong, but RTG remaining so silent, calm and cool, which is new, says to me they actually have something serious cooking in their own ovens.

It'll be hard tot each gamers a lesson, when there's the spreading fear of a new miner craze on the horizon. Last I checked, both AMD and Nvidia hardly did much to stamp out the last craze, though they did try making some cards specific for mining, who's to say they'll do that again this time, in this current climate (the virus, low production etc). Besides, there will likely be some people who will pre-order those GPU's, then see AMD's coming out, sell off their GPU's to some suckers and simply buy AMD's if they wanted. It's very hard to teach gamers a lesson into waiting for your product to show up, when you're not the market leader.

Imagine Xbox launching their console a while after Sony's, no one's gonna really care that much by then, because Sony just has an insane amount of market share and mind share.

AMD is just gonna have to hope that they actually manage to compete on all fronts, not just the low and mid range again, otherwise the 3080 and 90 are once again going to give people like me what I want, but without competition.