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JEMC said:

Captain_Yuri said:

While that's true, one of the more reliable leakers, kopite has said

"Thanks, I'll try to describe it, GA104 cannot beat BIG NAVI."

Thanks, I'll try to describe it, GA104 cannot beat BIG NAVI.

— kopite7kimi (@kopite7kimi) August 31, 2020

And

"There is no 3070Ti (or Super) based on GA104 for the time being, because it is not enough for BIG NAVI."

There is no 3070Ti (or Super) based on GA104 for the time being, because it is not enough for BIG NAVI.

— kopite7kimi (@kopite7kimi) August 31, 2020

"It's very expensive to use GA102 competing with BIG NAVI. So NVIDIA may have planned a new chip with a new process and smaller package. Probably called GA103?"

It's very expensive to use GA102 competing with BIG NAVI. So NVIDIA may have planned a new chip with a new process and smaller package. Probably called GA103?

— kopite7kimi (@kopite7kimi) September 6, 2020

Now most of these tweets were prior to Ampere announcement which every single leaker was wrong about the price. As far as I know and I could be wrong but he has yet to mention that Big Navi will actually beat GA102 which is 3080. Which is why I am skeptical of Big Navi actually being able to beat 3080 in Raster + Ray Tracing. But I think there is a very good chance that Navi 21 will beat 3070.

I remember the tweet about GA104 not being able to beat Big Navi. I think it was you who posted it a while ago (or not so long ago, there's been so many news and rumors that it's hard to keep track of when it happened), but I always treat them as rumors never take anyone of them for granted.

Plus there was a tweet that said that all previous Big Navi rumors were false because the chip had just been tapped out.

Anyway, a Big Navi card priced closely, preferably a bit lower, to 3070 with more memory and performing halfway between this card and a 3080 would do wonders for AMD even with sub-par ray tracing and without DLSS. But price will take an important part in its success.

Making a new chip just for that would cost a lot to Nvidia, but they have the mentality to not just win, but to destroy the competition, so I wouldn't be surprised if they do.

Yea pretty much. The problem with leaks and tweets is, you can never know who is right and who is wrong until the product actually comes out.

For the longest time for Ampere, this was the most reliable leak:

Even reliable leakers tweeted that one as well but it got every single thing wrong other than the bus width for the 3090. Eventually as we got closer to launch, a lot more reliable leaks came into play and those were correct to an extent. Based on the Ampere benchmarks that got leaked and Nvidia's own claims, 3080 is exceeding expectations based on that leak as it was supposed to be GA103. So we will see how it all goes.