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| BlackBeauty said: Why you lie like that tho? You can’t be serious and sit there and say that those even come close to DLSS 2.0. |
That Radeon Image Sharpening and DirectML are the competitors to DLSS? It's because they are.
So no. Not lying. Bold claim from someone who cannot provide evidence for anything.
| BlackBeauty said: Not only that Microsoft Direct ML is worse and actually require more power to run whereas DLSS free up performance. There’s nothing in the works from amd that can do the same. |
Clearly you don't know what DirectML is and what it does.
It does not require more power than DLSS.
In-fact... DirectML leverages WinML and can interface with nVidia's Tensor cores to do the *exact* same thing essentially... It's just hardware agnostic, thus AMD GPU's take a performance penalty.
See here:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/ai/
https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/accelerating-winml-and-nvidia-tensor-cores/
| BlackBeauty said: As for arm. The most most powerful super computers/server farm on the planet runs on arm. Most already the made the switch. It’s not just “mobile”. Arm processors are just way more efficient. Quite literally the future of computing. |
You are confusing things here.
* Super computer is not a consumer commodity product.
* Super computers rely on parallel processing and not serial processing, so thousands of energy efficient and "slower" CPU cores are useful rather then fewer higher performing ones.
In the top 10 Super Computers of the world... Only a single Super computer is ARM powered. (Again... More slower cores. And not yet operational.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOP500
And yet 4 Super computers are x86, 1 is custom but has commonality with DEC Alpha, 3 are Power PC and 1 is both PowerPC and x86.
And again... If we were to take enough 486 CPU's and string them together somehow, you could have the fastest "Super Computer in the world". - It doesn't mean a single CPU is actually any good however.
| BlackBeauty said: And The switch is a console. That is actually a hint to where arm is going. It’s NOT about Nintendo in “mobile” or arm in “mobile”. It’s about arm closing the power gap FAST in commercial use/computing. |
Ouya was an ARM powered console.
3DS was also a console. Being called a "handheld" doesn't change the fact it's a console.
ARM is still a light year behind an AMD Epyc 64-core CPU.
ARM is still a light year behind an 8-core, 16-thread Ryzen.
Those are the real facts here.
| TheBraveGallade said: Yeah he's making no sense, image sharpening takes up power while DLSS actually frees it up, comparativly, and also literally every graphics card has shapening tools, including nvidia. DLSS is a whole different ball game, that worked like crap early on but not its maturing, especially with the help of the speciallzed tensor cores. |
If you lower the resolution manually apply something liks Morphological AA and use Radeon Image Sharpening you can get results similar to a higher resolution output image. It also free's up resources.
However that is generally not how it's used, but it is how it *could* be used.
And Radeon Image Sharpning actually has more to it than you think... Here is some empirical evidence for you to chomp on:
Again... I have listed DLSS competitor, Aka. DirectML. Please don't ignore my post and take it outside of it's intended context.
| TheBraveGallade said: and lol, outside of servers, apple's devices run on arm, albiet heavily customized, and the ipad pro's caught up to the xbox one S TWO whole YEARS ago in graphics performance, and apple literally JUSt announced that they are going to transition to thier own ARM based chips for macs. sure the price point is different but the point still stands, and with apple applyign boosters to ARM, the power disparity is getting lower fast and it will always have an advantage in power consumption. |
The iPad Pro matching or exceeding the Xbox One's garbage x86 processor isn't a testament to ARM's success.
Nor is the iPad Pro's CPU a commodity product that can be picked up and used by anyone, Apple is propriety.
Plus... AMD's Jaguar was AMD's *absolute worst* CPU at a time when AMD wasn't making good CPU's, it was the FX era remember? Ryzen is in an entirely different field from Jaguar, it's wider, smarter and clocked higher.
Apple's ARM efforts are literally the best ARM cores in the industry, but even the ARM based Mac's are seeing performance losses with the move... And Apple never used the fastest x86 processors to start with. Food for thought.
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/312234-apple-a12z-arm-performance-vs-x86
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