If Xbox Series S is 100$ cheaper than PS5 All-Digital, does Xbox have a legitimate chance of outselling PS5 this gen?

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sales2099 said:

eva01beserk said:

2 things.

first you mistake me saying that no everyone finds value in gamepass to you interprreting me saying gamepass has no value. Wich is the main mistakess fans make. to belive that if im not 100% for something it means that I must hate it. Im trying to tell you that this will not entise 100% of the gaming market. 

second is that your only criteria for value is only quantity. A lot would say that more of a bad thing is not good value. 

Now i have been very specific in saying that the big games available on gamepass are either MS games that come day one with it, or if they are big third party games they come way later into the service. Now that for me dosent work. because I ike single player story driven games so im gona play I game i think im gona like on day one, or otherwise I will get spoiled. So if a big game comes to gamepass that is third party, by the time it gets there i would most likely play it by then. There could be others like me that are more cash strapted and will only pay for gamepass, but what if thouse games never come?

Now for MS games, so far none of them have apealed to me. That could definety change in the future, but so far there is no value in gamepass for me yet and Im betting im not the only one that thinks like that. Theres still value in gamepass for many, just not everyone. 

Value in GP is quantity and quality. Don’t see why it can’t be both. Plenty great games on the service. Of course nothing has a 100% market penetration rate, and everybody is entitled to their tastes in genres and don’t want to wait for big games to enter the service. That said, you have to put your personal preferences aside and look at this from a broad picture.

I may be bias as hell, but it’s a no brainer to say you pay less and get more with Xbox via Game Pass, especially coupled with Xcloud, EA Play and day 1 1st party. More often then not the average gamer is more likely to find something they like among all of that then find nothing appealing at all. 

You definetly have quantity part of the equation, but quality is not the same for everyone. Like You yourself have admited not everything has 100% penetration. I already used me as an example of why a person like me sees no value in gamepass. I would rather use that $180 a year in 3 games I know im going to like. So you saying now 200 games still means nothing for me if I still have no interest in any of them. 

You really cant take bias out of it wich is the thing. There are people that I know whos only reason to own a console is fifa. I kid you not but they only play fifa all year round. for them as well this means absolutly zero even with EA play, because it only adds the fifa from the previous year and a super fan will buy the latest fifa. Because thats the issue with yearly titles, as soon as the new version is out, the old one just dies on the spot. That for me is the main issue with gamepass. for me if they have big games that I would like, I probably already played it. I work and have family comitmets and other shit, I dont have time to play indy or other smaller games so for me only the big hitters matter. And im willing to bet that gaming demographic has shifted to where the main console gamers are in their 20's and 30's. So they are more likely to be in my situation. They would also be working so they have more tolerance of what value is considered. 

So far the only garanty market gamepass has in my opinion is children. And I will say that if that is the  case that will put a big quation mark on the type of games that MS will push with that demographic.