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EricHiggin said:

Captain_Yuri said:
Think of it like this.

You look at the two consoles right now and see what they are doing. They are playing a game of chicken with pricing and pre-orders. Why is that? It's cause they have no confidence in their product vs the other. They are like, you go first, no you go first.

What did Nvidia do? They are like, come at me bro. Here's our product. Here's our price. Bring it.

Now the ball is on AMD's court. We knew almost for a god damn month when Ampere was gonna get announced. Did AMD say anything? Nope. Now that doesn't mean shit because the question now will be, will AMD say something? Let's say they are playing the smart game and waiting for the reviews to go out. Cool. But will they tease us in the mean time? Or something? That right there will tell me what AMD is feeling about RDNA 2 cause for Zen, they were all over Intel. They weren't quiet, they were effectively saying, you lazy idiots, you are about to get rekt.

The console market is a bit different. SNY doesn't have the same general mind share that Nvidia does. If XBSX is the right price, along with Lockhart if it's coming, it will be more of a problem for SNY than if Radeon (6000?) can compete with GeForce 3000. Nvidia may lose some ground but it won't be that worrisome. That's at least partially why they went ahead. If AMD can beat them on performance and/or price, there isn't that much Nvidia can do about it, so getting out ahead and selling as many cards as possible before Big Navi get's announced wouldn't be the worst idea.

MS did the same thing with XBSX. Come at us bro. Well SNY did, and PS5 quickly became the heavy favorite, so. Consoles and PC's are different beasts though.

I wouldn't look at it as AMD as a whole here, because AMD tends to go more with the CPU's, and RTG with GPU's, though RTG isn't as commonly used.

AMD was super loud with Zen, but it's RTG that you should be focusing on. RTG has been marketing up a storm for years now, going back to Polaris, but unfortunately has been over hyping the products. Polaris wasn't quite up to par though fairly decent, but everything since has been a let down of sorts. RTG has been screaming from the rooftop about a storm coming, that never quite hits, or completely misses. Usually well in advance at that.

So why oh why have they been so silent all of the sudden? Everyone is seeing clouds forming and the skies darkening, so what gives? Is Big Navi even worse off than Vega, but they've learned by now and are trying to sweep it under the rug? Perhaps they're building a well armed horde, planning a 'surprise' attack on the king?

AMD knows Nvidia hasn't gotten sloppy like Intel. They may have gotten greedier, but they aren't lacking with their tech. AMD/RTG has to be much smarter about dealing with Nvidia than they were with Intel if they want to make up any ground in the GPU market.

Yea that's true. I do hope RTG brings it with RDNA 2 cause it's partly due to them and consoles, that we can get prices like this. Like all around the internet, there's so much excitement because of Ampere's price and I do believe it's because of the threat of RDNA 2. While I don't think they will be able to beat the 3080 in Rasterization + Ray Tracing, hopefully they can be very competitive.

Here's hoping we get some announcements soon!