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KratosLives said:
coolbeans said:

I see.  Aside from your assessment of the surgeon (what was his name in Pt. II again?) & Marlene, I can agree with your recounting of events.  For starters, there's just no way Marlene would've said everything's even stevens if she was allowed to live; that's not how this world operates, especially for the leader of the Fireflies seeing her group turn to rubble from one man.

I appreciate the perspective, but what's funny is everything you're retelling is what I love about it.

Joel shouldn't have killed the surgeon period, at all. It was selfish and he didn't take into consideration his family and so on. And as for Marlene, he should have just left her and dealt with her later if she was to come back for him. But to me it was pretty low of Joel to finish her like that. From their perspective they had a cause of a cure, it's not like she was bad. Joel could have fought her like a man if she managed to get to them some time in the future, but he ended her life like that, just didn't seem right to me. 

The way it happened fits with Joel's character it would have been out of character to have let marlene live, in TLOUS even his own brother had cut ties with him over his dog eat dog no matter the consequence attitude and even bill when talking about owing Joel a favor said or what you would  beat me up and take it anyway, so here was a man who had been emotionally closed off since his daughters death and now Tess who seemed to be the only one to have any kind of bond with him is also dead. finally has Ellie break that barrier down, so you see a man using all that single minded ruthlessness honed over twenty years  to protect Ellies life, btw didn't the head surgeon attack Joel with a scalpel? .

Last edited by mjk45 - on 25 August 2020

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