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Trumpstyle said:

Captain_Yuri said:

But how do you tell which one is the founders edition? I don't see any clock information or any other info about the GPU.

And yea I am aware of that tweet but we haven't heard anything since then.

Except even with watercooling, 5700 XT can't reach 2080 Ti levels:

https://www.techspot.com/review/1883-overclocking-radeon-rx-5700/

But somehow in that benchmark it can? That in itself sounds sketchy... Not to mention the name 5700 / 5700 XT...

And yea, I agree that this is all speculation but I don't get where the optimism is coming from considering AMD's track record when it comes to their GPUs and the new evidence that has come to light with RDNA 2's architecture which is essentially just RDNA 1 with ray tracing and support for Direct X 12 ultimate feature set. If it was a radical change, I'd agree that RDNA 2 should beat Ampere but it's not from what we know so far based on actual facts. Sure it could change by the time RDNA 2 comes and I hope it does but it feels like we are at the second stage of the Sonic cycle.

I don't remember everything as I don't follow this stuff so much anymore, I did during next-gen console speculation. The dude that made that openvr benchmark made a few comments on reddit, he said it beat the highest overclocked geforce 2080 ti, so I just looked at techpowerup for the highest overclocked 2080 ti and come to the conclusion 35% advantage for big navi.

What I meant that overclocked 5700xt can come close to geforce 2080 ti is because the 2080 ti scored really low, much lower than it was suppose to do, this happens in every benchmark, I gave a link where you could searched firestrike/Timespy and see for yourself.

I'm optimistic for big navi based on console clocks, Amd own presentation and now hot chip presentation:

You can see on this picture Xbox series X gpu should pull the same as Xbox one X, the entire console of Xbox one X pulled around 170-200W. So I just assume Rdna2 gpu at 12TF will pull ~160W probably lower.

The thing with that is... It beat the highest clock 2080 Ti on the benchmark platform. So you can't just look at the highest clocked 2080Ti somewhere else and assume it's the same one. Specially when the platform isn't a very popular one.

If you look at the benchmark I posted, 5700 XT is #22 from the top. The reason why the numbers are 52 Fps vs 100 Fps on the benchmark you posted is because of the resolution difference due to the headset. In this resolution, the highest fps from a 2080 Ti is around 62fps. So I doubt it's due to the 2080 Ti being very low clocked. What it does show is that this benchmark can certainly have nonsense results. For all we know, this could fall under Big Navi's Edge case where on certain games/platforms, AMD intends to keep up with the very best from Nvidia vs what the norm is where AMD falls very notably behind compared to Nvidia's best. I wouldn't put much faith on this benchmark as you are doing.

Series X power consumption figures are really good, I'll give you that. The Xbox One X also had pretty good power consumption figures at the time too. How that work out for Vega?

Last edited by Jizz_Beard_thePirate - on 22 August 2020