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Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 22 August 2020
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Trumpstyle said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Yea AMD has known to make up nonsense slides based on questionable metrics before... Where are you getting the 35% from?

20% if you are rounding up is rumoured to be at best, on par with a 3080. Not to mention that is a pretty random benchmark instead of something like Time Spy and that benchmark also has some weird results...

So the only benchmark rumour shows less than 20% performance improvement yet you are turning that into 35%?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/xbox-series-x-silicon-breakdown-hot-chips-2020-analysis-digital-foundry.272157/page-5#post-43192200

"That is not what we put out, rather I have said that it was close to a 2080 or "broadly similar to" it in the gears 5 benchmark on Ultra with no dynamic res on - in actuality it performed a bit below the 2080 in the gears 5 benchmark as Richard has said in one of his Videos. So nothing about 100 fps or whatever you say there. Regarding RT performance, we have said nothing definitive yet since there is not definitive comparisons out there without Vsync on - so we will have to wait for the game's to Release. But the rumbling in my gut elsewhere does not make me think it will be exactly be RTX 2080 Tiered."

If you look at the benchmark, it beat the highest overclocked geforce 2080 ti by around 20%, which put it around 35% over against the founders edition 2080 ti. There's this tweet also:

Over 2x Navi 10 performance put Big navi around +35% against geforce 2080 ti. For the openvr benchmark, you can check any benchmark you will always find gpus getting low scores because many people test it (in this case geforce 2080 ti) and someone probably using watercooled on certain gpu to reach high score (5700xt in this case). https://www.3dmark.com/search#/?mode=advanced

Somehow I just found another entry of this unknown amd gpu and I never seen anyone link to this one before on a forum:

Source:https://steamcommunity.com/app/955610#scrollTop=1456

For Dictator, I would w8 before comparing gpu performance, the gears 5 he is talking about was running on 2 week port if I remember correctly. But if you look at the Xbox series X gpu it has 12TF for ~160W based on that hot chip presentation.

I also wanna note, this is all just speculation, we will see where things land.

But how do you tell which one is the founders edition? I don't see any clock information or any other info about the GPU.

And yea I am aware of that tweet but we haven't heard anything since then.

Except even with watercooling, 5700 XT can't reach 2080 Ti levels:

https://www.techspot.com/review/1883-overclocking-radeon-rx-5700/

But somehow in that benchmark it can? That in itself sounds sketchy... Not to mention the name 5700 / 5700 XT...

And yea, I agree that this is all speculation but I don't get where the optimism is coming from considering AMD's track record when it comes to their GPUs and the new evidence that has come to light with RDNA 2's architecture which is essentially just RDNA 1 with ray tracing and support for Direct X 12 ultimate feature set. If it was a radical change, I'd agree that RDNA 2 should beat Ampere but it's not from what we know so far based on actual facts. Sure it could change by the time RDNA 2 comes and I hope it does but it feels like we are at the second stage of the Sonic cycle.

Last edited by Jizz_Beard_thePirate - on 22 August 2020

                  

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