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JWeinCom on 20 August 2020
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thetonestarr said:
JWeinCom said:

There's a lot of stuff that would work very poorly without motion controls. You could make it work on a standard controller, in the same way you play Smash on a Wiimote. It'd be possible, but incredibly awkward and less enjoyable.

When I have it working as intended, it's working 100% as well as motion controls. The problem is, the software isn't translating properly. I press left for waggle, my loftwing goes right. I press right, my loftwing goes right. No reason that should happen, it's weird. But loftwing control 100% can be dual analog - I've played countless flight games with dual analog and it worked just fine!

I have yet to get to the first Ghirahim battle - honestly, I may never get there if I can't get my waggle to translate the way it's supposed to - but if I can get there and make it work, I see absolutely no reason at all that fully traditional controls can't work when the game is actually coded for it.

That said, I have no problem with the game using gyro controls for some aspects. The majority of people complaining about motion controls are complaining at how MUCH they're required. Ok, so just have an option to dial it back. Easy-peasy. But I am seeing zero reason so far that they can't give fully traditional control as an option. If you think it would be less enjoyable, that's fine - others may disagree. I've seen plenty of games with far more complex combat systems than SS's, fully mapped to a standard controller, and it was fantastic. Very little in SS that I can see legitimately benefits from motion control - at most, I would say it simply gives a very potentially enjoyable alternative to standard control.

It has nothing to do with complexity. Kirby Canvas Curse is an incredibly simple game, but would be borderline unplayable with button controls, cause it wasn't designed for that. Many of the bosses are built around how you hold your sword and not just the direction of your swing. Mapping your sword's held position to the right stick would be doable but seems like it would be incredibly awkward. Also, being able to slash in any direction instantly regardless of where you're holding your sword would break certain boss fights. Then you'd need a separate button to actually lift the sword (holding the right stick up would be needed to hold the sword at about shoulder height), a button for thrust (I guess right click would work), another button to shield back/combine with joystick for spin attacks.

Again... they can do it. Like they put touch controls in Bayonetta and made Raving Rabbids work on an XBox controller. But, that doesn't mean it'd work well.