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JWeinCom on 05 August 2020
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KLXVER said:
JWeinCom said:

I meant unacceptable to me personally. As I've already said, people who enjoy those games can keep on enjoying them. And I'm not going to be on a moral high horse acting like I don't have errrrr... videos that objectify women on my hard drive, but it's just not what I like in my gaming. 

Bayonetta does wear tight clothing... Again, I'm not disputing that she was a sexual creature. And her hair is magic, so it's supposed to look like what it looks like. But, IMO Bayonetta in general is acceptable. She's (most of the time) not being displayed purely to titillate the mostly male gamers, and most of the time when she is it's in a wink wink nudge nudge kind of way. Based on what I've seen from DOA3X, the girls are sexualized to the exclusiong of everything else, to the point where they are objects and not characters which, again to me personally, is an unacceptable degree of sexualization. And I certainly don't accept that she's the most sexualized character in gaming. Play some DOAX3 and Senren Kagura and tell me if you still think that.

I see your point. I agree that the women in those games are not deep characters. However thats all they do. Bayonetta keeps talking sexy and acting sexy in moments when it just becomes silly. And she never shuts up about it for more than a short scene. She cant have a lollipop without acting sexy with it. I dont only see women being sexualized when they pretty much become sex objects. The women in the other games doesnt keep acting sexy and talking dirty a lot of the time. They play volleyball and minigames, but they are not acting or speaking sexy. They are just wearing very little clothes. Theres just that photoshoot mode where they act sexy. Maybe a few other times. Bayonetta keeps preforming for the player a lot of the time. Like some sort of private striptease. 

I feel like there was some X rated Bayonetta director's cut that you played that I didn't.

I typed in Bayonetta 2 gameplay, and this was the first video that came up.

https://youtu.be/z-5W745cGLg

Aside from spinning around a pole in the beginning, I can't see anything overtly sexual. In the cutscene she's not doing anything sexual at all, but is demonstrating compassion and showing that she wants to protect Loki.

https://youtu.be/nquoynXKskM

On the other hand, this is the first gameplay video for DOAX3. First thing the game does past the title screen is shove a girl's bum in my face and tell me her measurements.  Within 5 minutes they're picking out bikinis to dress up the character. For the next five minutes the girl is on a bed in the bikini while the player controls the camera to get the best angles. The gameplay is literally just moving the camera around to look at the girl.

11 minutes she's bent over by the poolside entering the water in the least practical way possible. Twelve minutes in she's napping in a bikini while again the player controls the camera. At 13 minutes the player is instructed to take photos of Kasumi relaxing and to get a picture of butt battle. 15 minutes back to bikini shopping and bed. At 19 minutes we're butt battling. 20 minutes, posing on the bed again. 26 minutes in the player is buying "pose cards" and lingerie. You can also buy suntan lotion.

Then, there's this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MST12aDCkHc

Bayonetta is more sexualized? Come on dude...

Last edited by JWeinCom - on 05 August 2020