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JWeinCom on 05 August 2020
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KLXVER said:
JWeinCom said:

Well, there's games like Mass Effect, GOW, GTA, or (I think) Witcher, where characters actually have sex. Then there's games like DOA Paradise where oggling digital women is the whole point. 

On the other hand, Bayonetta doesn't have sex with anyone. I don't think she actually wants to have sex with anyone in the games, except maybe Jeane, with who she's actually not that flirtacious. The sexuality in Bayonetta is that her clothes partially come off at points, she pole dances entirely dressed, and there are some suggestive poses. I'm not saying it's completely non-sexual, but it objectively less sexual than something like Mass effect where characters actually do have sex.

There's also the matter of the way a character is sexualized. If Bayonetta's sole purpose in the game was to show up and pose, that'd be one thing, but 90% of the time, she's kicking ass. 

Well you can say the same thing for Senran Kagura and DOA Xtreme. They dont have sex with anyone either and posing is not their only reason of being there. I dont think there are a more sexualized character than Bayonetta. Even to perform her big move requires her to reach climax ffs...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg6dtbJPPq0

Never played Senren Kagura, but based on the trailer... We've got...

Girls dancing in bikinis for no clear purpose, absurd jiggle physics, an "upgraded dressing room" where you can choose to put characters in poses like "power butt" and power cleavage, dress them with things like "sexy sweater" and lingirie, there's jiggle physics on completely static images, characters twice pull objects from between their breasts, by my count 13 extreme cleavage close ups, and about as much of the trailer is spend on the fact that you can pose the girls to your liking as they do on the actual gameplay. Basically every character is dressed in a skimpy outfit with comically oversized breasts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nzBjXXcn7o

Compare that to Bayonetta where the trailer explains the backstory, shows some gameplay, and really doesn't showcase any sexuality. 

Basically... In Senren Kagura women being sexy (or whatever that audience thinks is sexy) is the entire point of the game's existence. Maybe they're not literally only there to be sexy (although there is a mode where they literally do do nothing but pose), but that's far and away their primary purpose (why else would there be jiggle physics in an image where the character is NOT MOVING). 

Bayonetta is an actual character with motivations and a purpose, starring in a game that is first and foremost designed to be a kickass action game. Her being a flirtatious tease adds flavor to the game, and is used somewhat sparingly, or at least WAAAAAAY more sparingly then Senren Kagura... which again, has 13 cleavage close ups just in the trailer.

There's a clear difference here. I can't see Nintendo publishing anything like that.

Last edited by JWeinCom - on 05 August 2020