The console war is over

[DonFerrari]

zero129 said:

DonFerrari said:

Going the lenght... is the console sales important or not to MS? From Phil statements for me they don't care or focus on that anymore (probably because they can't claim a win on it and stopped giving numbers since the "nearing 10M sales") and are looking on how to expand GP and make XCloud the future. So I'm not saying Phil was lying on this, but that people that say that isn't what he mean are the ones on the wrong.

And about PC releases impacting sales of Xbox consoles well you are going to disprove Major Nelson himself, and possibly his intel on this is better than yours.

But don't try to defend the two standards of Phil Spencer on locking people out due to generation or device then later paying for exclusives, he have been complaining about paid exclusive ever since he had a hard time doing it after Tomb Raider because of the disparity on userbase, but he never stopped doing it for real. He is just the "good guy" to promote himself and cry over competition.

Since when is a standalone spin-off meant to be flagship? Even more, Spiderman was a first release by Insomniac and the company was recently bought, plus the spin-off is coming not that long after the release of the previous one. Trying to compare it with Halo Infinite is trying to favour Xbox the most, and still Miles Morales still looks better than Halo and Sony didn't need to tout it as being built ground up to PS5 or that they have the strongest system ever... guess which company needed to "listen closely" after backlash from fanbase?

"The most ambitious campaign", seem like you took straight from MS playbook, a lot of hype and then where is the game to show it?

And we haven't seem the people that have been attacking Goopy for the last couple months saying Halo Infinite would look next-gen and not be held up at all by the Xbox One version right?

I'm pretty sure that before this event people were expecting Halo Infinite to be a showcase of the power of Xbox Series X, it is the main title of Xbox since it inception.

Id like you to point out where anyone said that Halo was 100% going to look next gen, i dont remember it that way. I do remember people including myself pointing out to Goopy that engines can scale and that Halo Inf could look next gen but that doesn't = Halo looking next gen. <-- I also still stand by that statement as the has been plenty of cross gen games in the past that wasnt held back by the gen before it. Also Goopys main statement was that "Every exclusive" would be held back by xbox one. How many exclusives was held back by Xbox One?. How many exclusives was even shown that is also going to be on XBOne?. Now his narrative is that PC will hold back the games. where has PC ever held back any game?. Its always the other way around.

You could go for the many threads where Goopy and Ludicrous have bickered about this, and the many time others also brought official info from MS or 343 saying Halo was being brought ground up to take advantage of Series X power and that it wasn't being held down by One. And also all the titles that were also releasing on One in the presentation as far as I remember didn't look as good as the ones that were full next gen be it on Sony or MS presentation.

On the case of Halo it is even worst, it isn't that it looks crossgen, it looks current gen even running on a PC that should be representative of Series X. So we are like couple months of the game turning gold and it isn't running on Series X and looks current gen, that will be a very hard polish to do, and I do hope they manage it.