The console war is over

[DonFerrari]

Azzanation said:

DonFerrari said:

They needed Sony doing all major fuckups while they themselves doing very few mistakes in comparison (with only RROD being of notice, and that being mostly disregarded by the fanbase and even market, RROD just got confirmation after X360 was already well stablished).

From what I remember the department of Xbox wasn't really only Xbox so it had losses from other devices and endeavors like Surface, isn't that correct?

Sony certainly lost a fuck ton of money on PS3, it was selling for like 300 loss per console on launch and it actually never was reported to sell for a profit during it lifetime, so that was very hard to offset with SW sales (that Sony at the time had from every 10 1st party games launched 6 was losing money, 2 broke even and only 2 really made money and perhaps that didn`t even pay out for the whole cost) or even the royalties. PSN for free only added costs without revenue, with plus being very late on the gen and only having 1-2M subs.

And good that you point that Phil Spencer is bringing Xbox Series X to what Don Mattrick wanted on Xbox One, so he isn`t that good guy with a complete different mindset from Don Mattrick that was being held down by corporate right?

What ever the reasons these consoles sell for doesn't change the fact that they make and lose money. The console industry is a very in-consistence industry, one gen they can be on top of the world and the next gen they are on the bottom bleeding money. Its not a stable business practice. Something MS wants to move away from and implement a more stable system for their business practices.

Exactly, Phil is doing what Don is doing which is what MS wanted in the first place, neither are bad guys and the ideas work great on paper, Steam shows that this method works extremely well, its just very hard implementing these ideas into the console industry until now.

Nintendo have been pretty consistent though, and most 3rd parties as well. Sony have lost money only on PS3 and we don`t have any evidence that MS had any console that truly profited so not sure where you are getting this inconsistence out of.

Still we got several fans talking that Phil was against what MS did with X1 and that he didn`t had the power to fight it back.