Phil Spencer Says Xbox Series X Games Aren't Being Held Back By Xbox One

[DonFerrari]

zero129 said:

DonFerrari said:

Disc is only 30 in cost and I put Sony subsiding 100 for the discless PS5 exactly to combat Series S pricing. But as I said I can be wrong on all 4, but still the price to manufacture Series S likely isn't much less than 150 less than XSX. And mainly that just because the GPU is 1/3 the power doesn't mean it will cost 1/3 to make or will sell for 1/3 the price.

Like i said depending on the gpu the can be a massive saving in price. even more so if they expect Series S to sell more then Series X.

Do you really think that the series S, That has a lower GPU, Les ram, and a slightly less faster cpu and no disc then the Series X is only going to allow them to shave 150 off the cost of Series X but Sony is going to shave 100 off the cost of the PS5 by just removing the disc?.

Shave of cost and price is different. Look again the price I put.

I put specifics on what I expect the discless Series S to save on cost and after that gave subsiding for it so it is Series S at 299 versus XSX at 549 so it is 250 difference not 150.

And for PS5 discless I put 100 of Sony eating the cost to make it more attractive to market not that it will cost 100 less to make, that will also be like only 30 bucks or some couple dollar due to packging and shell.

Again XSS at 299 (MS losing 50 per unit), PS5 no disc 399 (100 more than Series S, but Sony taking 100 loss), PS5 with disc 499 (Initially I imagined PS5 would be at most 449, but with two models I can see they going for 499 on the disc version and losing like 50 per console like PS4 did), and XSX going for 549 (50 loss per console) and could even be 599 if they want to say they are premium and not take loss because they really want to sell XSS.

PS5 BOM versus XSX difference in estimative is 30-50 bucks (Daniel Ahmad).