Brexit

[JRPGfan]

EricHiggin said:

JRPGfan said:

Brexit = we dont want anyone telling us what to do!


"CANZUK is an acronym for the theoretical political and economic union of Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the United Kingdom as part of an international body similar in scope to the former European Economic Community. This includes increased trade, foreign policy co-operation, military co-operation and mobility of citizens between the four states." - Wikipedia


So working with the EU isnt something the UK wants..... but its okay joining another smaller version seemingly heading the same direction as the EU? by think-tanks.

"Canada, Australia and New Zealand are former settler colonies of the British Empire where people of British ethnic origin came to constitute the majority of the population." - Wikipedia

Okay... so the reason it wants it.... is because in the great old days of the British Empire! things where great, britain ruled the waves and the world.
What are the chances that the UK as the old rulers, won't want "special privilages" like they did in the EU? to join Canzuk? Will CANZUK be the future scapegoat by UK politicans? and then a Brexit 2.0 (with Canzuk) (okay Im jumping too far ahead here).


Thats a hellva spread out empire though.
Canada + Austalia + UK is basically 3 points as far away from each other, on the planet as humanly possible.

Because that makes for fantastic and easy trade.
Why trade with nearby neighbors, when you can travel half way around the world, to do the same?

EnricoPallazzo said:

Can't see it as a bad thing. Trade deals between nations is usually beneficial to both specially in business and trade. Political is a little bit more complicated and depend on other factors on the table.

JRPGfan said:

Lets see:

Australia:
(biggest) Imports : Refined petrolium, crude petrolium, cars, delivery trucks, broadcasting equiptment,...
(biggest) exports : Coal, Iron ores, Gold, Copper.

Canada:
(biggest) Imports : Cars, Refined petrolium, delievery trucks, Computers.
(biggest) exports : Crude petrolium, cars, Refinded petrolium, Gold, Vehicle Parts.

Canda benefits alot from trade with Australia:
Alright so already we see that canada + australia makes good sense to trade with one another.
Australia needs cars + petrolium, and Canada has alot of that.
Canada needs iron, and australia has that.

You notice that both countries sell petrolium, and import it.
Both also have gold, exports.  Canada sells cars, and also imports alot of them.

UK:

(biggest) Imports :  Cars, Gold, Refined Petrolium, Crude Petrolium, Packaged medicines.
(biggest) exports :  Cars, Crude Petrolium, Gold, Gas Turbines, Packaged medicines.

Apparently the UK buys alot of gold, and sells it to others.
Same with medicine, it comes in and then goes out.

Australia needs things it doesnt produce itself.
Canada exports alot of the things it needs.

UK? Im not sure where it fits in, but im sure theres things to be traded back and forth between the nations.
Im not sure its some magical fix that ll come anywhere close to what its loseing from leaveing the EU's single market.

The politics I can totally see being touchy, as even I wasn't all that keen on that portion myself. Though I can see the thought process behind it since we're all part of 'the same family', if you will. I wondered what some opinions would be and didn't want to muddy them by saying what I thought first. Also I just found out about it so I gotta look into it more, but perhaps someone across the pond knew better what it was all about.

The business and trade would make more sense, but I would assume the UK would want to keep trading as much as possible with the EU where it potentially could, and then possibly deal with lesser beneficial trade with CANZUK partners for some of the rest. Not sure how tough the EU is being with the UK on this and where it's likely to end up. Having a back up plan isn't a bad idea though.

EU is actually going pretty easy on the UK.
All the UK has to get free trade agreement, is agree with commen sense things to get it.
But apparently, it wont comepete on fair levels to the EU, so wont agree to them.

Where its likely to end up:
The EU is ~50% of the UK's trade, and a further ~11% through countries that have trade deals with the EU.

So its only like 61% of their trade.... which apparnetly they dont value that much.
Then about ~80% of the UK economy is based around finance and services, they sell to others.
Alot of these, are from the EU, which in future the EU likely wont allow the UK to keep
(why give away jobs and money to another nation not in the EU for free? to handle finance and serives for you? if you can do them yourself)

The UK economy is gonna shrink aton, and apparently the avg Joe bloke of the UK doesnt care.
"give us WTO rules then" Without understanding the impact of such.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 15 July 2020