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Captain_Yuri said:
Amd does need a win in the gpu department and there's one key thing they have right now that they didn't in the last decade... Money! But I m skeptical.

I do hope it's true though but more importantly I sure hope the pricing ain't shit. If the 5000 series costed almost as much as Turing without ray tracing. With ray tracing, I sure hope they don't price it urghhly.

For sure, but yeah quite a few rumours pointing RDNA 2 is going to be quite performant. I wouldn't be too surprised.

RDNA 2 should be 2x RDNA 1st gen and RDNA 3 three times. That's why Nvidia should be worried and why they are going out all stops for Ampere. Man, GPU market about to get a lot exciting again.

They would need to price it competitively. RT performance is an unknown of both cards but it would need to keep pace in that regard as well. I would assume this would cost as much a RTX 3080 for their flagship or a tad lower.

I'll believe it when I see it though.

Lots of claims of AMD "retaking the crown" over the years... I.E. Fury and Vega thanks to HBM, but that didn't really materialize.
Again with RDNA.

They have managed to offer a few compelling products over the years (I.E RX 480/580) but they were mostly mid-range hardware.

JEMC said:
I really, really doubt Big Navi will be that powerful. Now don't get me wrong, I hope they do, but it would be stupidly big improvement gen over gen only from a new architecture because 7nm+ can't be much better than 7mn.

I expect a performance and efficiency uplift.

RDNA was still based on GCN but with "aspects" taken from RDNA2, so it was an in between variant for time-to-market reasons... AMD still left some technology on the table to drive performance home.

We do need AMD to step up and offer some pressure on nVidia to bring pricing down to more tenable levels, Intel stepping into the ring might help there as well.