Brexit

[JRPGfan]

EnricoPallazzo said:

JRPGfan said:

A song that mentions ignoreing your own financial experts saying its a horrible idea, that will have bad consequences.
Makes fun people being against such, and sings:

"The British told them to fuck off. Seventeen million fuck-offs."

Thats not funny, thats scary as fack.

Stupid is, as stupid does... I guess.
This is like how 33% of americans think Trump is still doing a fantastic job, of dealing with the corona virus.

Like how? how are there so many people support these things?
I believe time will tell..... but even if the UK economy shrinks by like 20-30% over the comeing years, and Scotland gets its independence, or NI is reunited.... somehow there will still be some saying that brexit was the right thing to do.

its not scary, the song is exactly about people being able to decide their future even with most of theboress putting you under project fear to decide otherwise. To call you racist because you want brexit. That say old people should not vote because its not their future. That wants to shame you and put you in the wrong side of history hecause you think different. That wants to shame you because you are against open borders. And too all that the british said fuck off.

Twice as in the recent elections the conservatives had a major victory.

A LOT of english people dont care about scotland getting independance, they see it more as an annoyance to have this discussion all the time and really dont care if they follow their own path, as long as england can stop sending them money.

There is another side of this story than what is shown at bbc, the guardian and social media.

You think its freeing, that if theres enough stupid in society, that they can vote for something thats against their own self intrest.
It proves you live in free society! yah! we're not actually surpressed by the elites that claim to know better.

My take it, is its scary theres so much stupid in society.

Project fear? could you watch the 4 videos below and give your comments on them please?
Are these brexit politicans heroes of freedom? or the stupid, leading other stupid along as sheep, to jump off a cliff?

JRPGfan said:

Pyro as Bill.

So just ignore facts and reality, and talk about the "greatness" of a once upon a time, GB?
(the past is the past, we re talking the next 25-50 years here instead)

80% of GDP for the UK is Financial & services, that they mainly get from Europe.
The not getting a free trade agrement with EU (ei. just hard crashing into WTO rules) will mean you risk loseing large quantities of that.

Remember the brexiteers used to call all this stuff "Project Fear"?
(ofc EU wouldn't risk UK leaveing without a deal, and will make sure some form of free trade agreement is given, EU needs UK, more than it needs them, they will bend over if push comes to shove)

Reality?
EU has been saying the same thing over and over, and the UK just ignores it.
UK is basically gambleing with its economy, hopeing the EU saves them from themselves (and it doesnt look like this will happend).
Its just driveing the car towards the cliff edge, and intending to go over it.

Reality :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nho2oyWsroc

(UK trade secretary leaked letter, in a panic of how things will turn out)
(border infrastructure wont be ready, until april/july of 2021. Smuggleing + legal trouoble with WTO to come from this. This comes from your own Trade secretary)

*also this is "disaster for firms tradeing within the EU" (by her words). Apparently this "half year" long gap without anything in place will hurt businesses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOqhhx4xAmg

Mark Francois writes a mocking letter to EU, to score points amoung brexit voters.
Michel Barnier replies in a very diplomatic way.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brXZU4iKhfg

(incompetence and curruption)

UK decides it wont use EU satilites for military and such, to get its own.
Only issue? it bought the wrong type of satalites.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kui7R3MOhRY

We re Great Britain, we dont need the EU.
And i ll prove it, by getting our own nav satilites! Procedes to spend a ton of money, on something not able to do what it was supposed to do.

I'd like your take on these things.
Do you still see it all as just "project fear" ?