EricHiggin said:
Captain_Yuri said:
Right but most people won't think like that. People won't throw away 100s of dollars so they can donate to AMD and keep them alive while having a worse experience.
They need to keep trying cause if they don't, they will keep on losing market share until they get axed.
Nvidia is already the majority.
Personally I do like AMD. I really do. I was one of the first gen buyers as I owned a Ryzen 7 1700. Now I have a 3900X. I am a bit salty that I am not getting 4000 series but it wasn't like I was gonna upgrade to it anyway. I don't want an Intel situation although Nvidia's will probably be worse in terms of pricing than intel if they were the only ones left. But that doesn't mean I am going to donate to AMD since I am not a charity. AMD needs to find a way out of the hole they are in with their GPUs. And right now while their CPU's are very popular is the best time to do it as they can afford to take risks. Cause if Intel comes back at full force while they are struggling against Nvidia, it will once again, not be a good outlook for them. It wasn't too long ago they were bleeding money left and right. They fixed a big leak but there's still one left. Before the second Intel ice burg hits, they better have fixed the other leak cause otherwise... Back to the Penny stock they go...
Personally I think RDNA2 could be their ticket if they play their cards right. They don't need to be the performance king, they need to be the value king. Not similar price but less features and less performance cause that's not good value imo.
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Ok but you pointed out that Nvidia will try to price match Radeon or close enough, so unless AMD purposely sells at cost, how can they compete? It seems to me that if Radeon is less performing and cheap or expensive, they lose, the same performance for slightly less or the same, they lose, so the only chance in a situation like this, is to simply be the very best and then there's no reason not to sell the most while charging the most, right?
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They essentially need a hail marry architecture that can allow them to do just that. Zen wasn't just a better version of FX or a better version of what Intel was doing with their consumer cpus. It was very different architecture. They need something like it. Whether or not they can do it and whether or not Nvidia is too far ahead is another question entirely. They can try to charge comparable prices sure but that's a very short term strategy that won't go very far as charging similar pricing changes the perspective from underdog value company to Pricey but worse. Why would people want to cheer for AMD if they are gonna do the similar horrible pricing as Nvidia but without the features and drivers? Cause that would mean that if AMD were top, they aren't gonna bring prices down, they would increase it further while giving you less than Nvidia...
