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iron_megalith on 28 June 2020
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DonFerrari said:
iron_megalith said:

You can twist it like that. But for a game that's been showered with 10/10s and 9/10s it better be a masterpiece or close to one. Clearly it isn't according to the huge divide. There are things that are fundamentally broken in this game.

And also are you saying Jim Sterling's review wasn't a fair one?

Several masterpieces divide opinions, I would even say that the most well know will have a huge divise between people. And on the critics there is not that much division, so that is probably why you are piking specific cases where people are very vocal against the game.

I dunno if Jim's review is fair, but I will give him the benefit of doubt. Still you didn't bother with the 90 or so positive reviews did you?

iron_megalith said:

Just look around. Those who disliked Joel's death weren't against Joel getting killed. It maked sense for him to die. His whole character is drenched in sin. The outrage lies on several underlying reasons. Mainly it has something to do with the writing and the execution. I don't want to repost the whole argument I had with another poster here.

There really wasn't a flaw on it except nitpicking on how it was conducted, motive was there, means where there. Abby lucked out to meet him on a position that allowed her to find him. Could ND have dragged that for 5h until she found him? Yes, but that wouldn't really change much, just would please people that need everything detailed but possibly would displease people that wouldn't want the game going for 40+ h per play.

I'm tired of debating this thing. If people are really fine with the contrived story telling in this game, then more power to them. However if you are going to be make an argument that the writing in this story is on par with TLOU1, you need to approach it objectively and say why it is so.

But it seems to me that people are taking my criticism of this game as me telling to stop enjoying the thing. You be you. My point still stands. We were forced to accept the changes on some characters without having anything to show how and why it changed from where TLOU1 left off.

And if you are going to ask me why I think the credibility of the reviewers are shot, it's simply that a lot of them seem to have failed to reflect what a lot of people are complaining about. I get that these people have their own opinions, but do understand that they are not just a random reviewer. These people are paid to do this thing and are used as a metric for marketing the game. Whatever they publish here can affect purchasing decisions of the consumer. If they failed to resonate with what the people(fans) may have issues with about this game then what is the point of having them considered as "top critic"? They're writing for a different audience that would potentially be on the minority.

Like I said, if I didn't read the spoilers, I wouldn't know I will be playing Abby for a long period of time. Given the circumstance of what has happened, the whole game is taken as a hostage. To a lot of people, it can be a drag.

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