(SPOILER ALERT) Free discussion of TLOU2 with story included

[DonFerrari]

iron_megalith said:

DonFerrari said:

So again, everyone that likes the game or think it is the best game of the gen is wrong and isn`t credible, the only credible ones are the ones that are giving jabs at the game, gotcha. Thanks for confirming.

You can twist it like that. But for a game that's been showered with 10/10s and 9/10s it better be a masterpiece or close to one. Clearly it isn't according to the huge divide. There are things that are fundamentally broken in this game.

And also are you saying Jim Sterling's review wasn't a fair one?

Several masterpieces divide opinions, I would even say that the most well know will have a huge divise between people. And on the critics there is not that much division, so that is probably why you are piking specific cases where people are very vocal against the game.

I dunno if Jim's review is fair, but I will give him the benefit of doubt. Still you didn't bother with the 90 or so positive reviews did you?

iron_megalith said:

DonFerrari said:

I`ll just say that people that couldn`t understand Abby killing Joel and because of that hated playing as her just lack imagination. You played the whole first game, you know that Joel have killed a lot of people, you have Ellie saying that is useless to speculate who could have killed him (group) as he have crossed to many people and groups. And it ended up being the most obvious group that wanted revenge.

My qualm with Abby isn`t she taking revenge on Joel but being dumb to let Ellie, Tommy and co alive to also revenge on her and the total lack of planning capability (she just wanted to invade Jackson and see how things would play out). But playing with her was better than with Ellie most of time, even more for people that hated the love bird talk between Ellie and Dina.

Man you must have not seem the tip I gave you.

To platinum you`ll need almost 2 gamethroughs because to max both Ellie and Abby and weapons you need to finish Ellie side and then a little on Abby to have all the parts and pills. Also you need to keep a manual save file from the finished game so you can load any chapter you wish (you have to first load the manual ending and then chose the chapter, or you could go backwards on chapter select so you don`t block any chapter). But I agree it was very badly done.

They should have kept the Uncharted way, all collectibles are always show for you on your in game menu and the quantity per chapter (not day) available on main menu. Much easier to track things down. Luckly I got 90% of collectibles on the first play, so on the second one I`m using guide to pick all of Ellies on the mandatory part and then after I get Abby maxed I`ll look what I`m missing and then hand pick chapter (or just finish second play)

Just look around. Those who disliked Joel's death weren't against Joel getting killed. It maked sense for him to die. His whole character is drenched in sin. The outrage lies on several underlying reasons. Mainly it has something to do with the writing and the execution. I don't want to repost the whole argument I had with another poster here.

There really wasn't a flaw on it except nitpicking on how it was conducted, motive was there, means where there. Abby lucked out to meet him on a position that allowed her to find him. Could ND have dragged that for 5h until she found him? Yes, but that wouldn't really change much, just would please people that need everything detailed but possibly would displease people that wouldn't want the game going for 40+ h per play.