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Mnementh said:
Cyran said:

The one thing I would like to add and this is not directed at anyone but just in general I get the feeling there are people that have the impression that there a matter of chose when it comes to Gender Identity.

There a number of research papers out there and medical studies that very much suggest Gender Identity is NOT a chose but is very much a foundational part of who a person is and can be seen by studying the physical make up of that individual brain. In other words in the old nature vs nurture debate, Gender identity is part of someone Nature.

Here a link of a short description of some of the science on the subject out there.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/research-on-the-transgender-brain-what-you-should-know/

Ah thanks. Yes, that is also my (limited) understanding of the things. Your gender identity (as your biological sex) is innate.

I would add to that though, that gender specific roles are formed in a strong way by society and culture. Maybe not all of it, but a lot is assigned by nurture. You can see this in comparing gender roles in different cultures among the earth at different times.

I complete agree and sundin13 touched on this. Gender Identity or biological sex has nothing to do with the clothes you wear or the gender roles oppose on them by society.  Let me suggest this, People who identify as female do not wear certain clothes or makeup etc because they identify as female but rather because they identify as female they have a desire to be seen by society as female and therefore mimics the norms of that society expectations for females.

In other words Trans woman are just as much a victim of roles and expectations force on females by a Patriarchy then biological females.

Last edited by Cyran - on 23 June 2020