dark_gh0st_b0y said:
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do you understand that you exaggerate? by presenting small inaccuracy as 'misinformation' and make it sound dramatic, even accusing me of making up stats?
Again, "Do you understand that the problem is not how accurate the information is, but the fact that you posted it without any rational basis for knowing how accurate it was?"
The problem is you still don't seem to get it. When you say "Oh I'm sorry, but I was only off by a little (which still isn't true btw) so really it's ok" you're completely missing the point.#Sorrynotsorry" The problem is that you're posting things as if they're true without knowing if they're true. That's dishonest. If it's the case that you were only off by a little (we still don't know that because you've yet to find the actual figure) then that's just luck, and does not in any way justify your actions. Again, if I say your penis is two inches long, then I'm full of shit, regardless of the actual size of your penis.
now "any other stat I've posted" is garbage!? because I didn't state the source on one of them? seriously... I understand that you may disagree with my views in some topics, but calling the stats garbage? all because they do not serve your views
No, every other stat is not garbage because you didn't post the source on one of them them. Every other stat is garbage because they're all inaccurate garbage. I explained why your stats are garbage. Because, they don't seem to account for a large chunk of the population, and they simply throw out 1/3 of the data. You can't just throw out 1/3 of the data and assume your sample is still random. Ask a statistician if you could just ignore 1/3 of your data. If they say "yup nbd" I'll stand corrected.
I haven't expressed any views so I'm not sure which ones they don't serve. How can I disagree with your view if you haven't presented it XD.
you are desperate on downgrading my opinions that you hold on to this thing and try to make it sound huge, I highly doubt you would make it a big matter or even ask for a source for someone who agreed with you, but I get attacked brutally because I dare post some data to discuss while still shaping up my opinion... your bias is unreal
You doubt it? Cool. I give precisely zero fucks whether or not you think I'm biased. You posted misinformation, and you continue to do so. As such, you'll continue to get called on it.
what 25% of the population are you referring to? if it's about the Hispanic/Latino they are obviously included in the White race, since there is the 'Other' category that only "Includes American Indian or Alaska Native, Asian, and Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander."
All of the other graphs you posted list hispanics as a separate category. Which means that if that data counts hispanics as whites, and this data doesn't, you cannot compare them. Again, this is really basic statistics. If you're not defining your variables in the same way, you cannot compare them across different "studies".
If Hispanics and Latinos were incorporated in the white data (which you haven't given any reliable source to show that they are and not incorporated into the 1/3 of the data that's unknown) then that drastically changes the ratio. In your last post, you said your first claim was the murder arrest rate for black people was 6x as much as white people. But IF hispanics are being incorporated into the white figure, and we ignore the issue of 1/3 of the data being unaccounted for, then that would mean black people would actually be arrested for murder at about 10x the rate.
This is an absolutely massive difference. You're off by 66% (again this is assuming hispanics count as white). IF murder arrest rates are correlated with police brutality, that would completely change the correlation.
This is why I say all of the stats you post are garbage. Because they're garbage.
all the other figures I posted stated sources on them anyway, and again my intention was to talk and learn more about actual US society problems not this... but yeah, as you said before, with these figures that I post I'm not worth discussing anything with, how dare I
Yeah... when you post figures without knowing where they're from, admittedly without caring for the source, and use trolling 101 tactics (Oh, I'm not saying it must be the case that people are racist against black people because they commit so many crimes... I'm just saying it makes sense that people are racist against black people because they commit so many crimes. No opinion here folks, just a guy looking for answers, why are you attacking me for just looking for answers
), people are going to justifiably believe that you're being disingenuous.
If you sincerely wanted to learn more about US societal problems, you could have. So I'll ask for the third time. How much time have you put into researching this? What sources have you found?
Last edited by JWeinCom - on 16 June 2020
