Pemalite said:
John2290 said:
You fail to understand Antifa's purpose they use "antifa" as a recruiting tool but they are in reality communists, like left of Stalin types, and some are anarchists. It's really just the fools at the lowest level who think they are fighting fascists but hey, 99.9% of people aren't facists in the western world.
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ANTIFA is a "collection of groups and individuals" out to achieve the same goal, not a singular cohesive entity with any kind of structure, so they don't really have a recruitment system into a "group" or any kind of control. - Anyone can thus technically join and use the name "ANTIFA" any way they want, good or bad.
Generally they are united by a single goal, to remove fascist extremism like white supremacy and Nazism... And are against the government, authoritarian regimes, capitalism and so forth. And you are right there are people with different views in ANTIFA, there are even some right-wing individuals as they get their rocks off from the general excitement of protesting and rallying against government in general.
There is some socializing and networking that goes on in order to disseminate information though, but for the most part it's all pretty non-cohesive, it's surprising that they are as effective as they are to be honest.
Again, not defending their use of violence to meet violence... But ANTIFA in general wouldn't exist if fascism didn't exist, it's literally why ANTIFA came to be.
Immersiveunreality said:
Indeed the badly behaving amongst them will always exist and if they do not fight this they will find another ghost to act out their hatefullness.
Not saying they all fight ghosts but would it matter?
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The law needs to crack down on them... And the law needs to crack down on their opponents. Left-wing media only seems to focus on right-wing extremists like Neo-Nazi's and white supremacists which I find frustrating and disingenuous.. And right-wing media only focuses and moans about ANTIFA, which is also disingenuous.
It's frustrating how both sides of the media (And the people who sit on those sides of the political ideology fence) are moaning about the same bullshit, but with a different flag. - They are honestly as bad as each other.
Right wing or left wing extremism is still extremism, both sides need to be managed effectively as it undermines societal cohesiveness, the law needs to recognize this and effectively step in, not step away due to "freedom of speech" or "freedom of protesting". - Extremism shouldn't be a freedom, there is never an excuse for violence.
But you are right, these are individuals, regardless if you are a White Supremacist or part of ANTIFA, they are full of hate, ridicule and intolerance... And the further left or right you go on the political spectrum, the more the left and right are the same... Aka. The Political Horseshoe theory.
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