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Mr_No said:
EnricoPallazzo said:

A few things are DEFINITELY real as you can see in the 90 minute leak. Joel dies at the beginning of the game, killed by Abby. We play a portion of the game as Abby, but not half the game as some people said. There is a showdown between Ellie and Abby probably at the end of the game. Dina's sperm donor dies. Abby is the daughter of the medic from the first game and she has more muscles than she-hulk. Also she has a full gym.

But we dont know the context and how those things will happen, there will definitely be a lot of drama, shocking scenes and etc. There is also A LOT of flashbacks of the time between the first and second game that will help build context and I believe Joel will be in a lot of those. Also there is a theory floating around that he will be in the game as a "ghost" of Ellies conscience, which I doubt. 

Well... let's wait and see.

What context do you need? Abby kills Joel. Abby kills Ellie. No matter how you dress it, that's how it is: Abby, a no one, kills both main characters in such a nonsensical fashion because a nobody died at the end of the previous game. I was expecting a lot more from Naughty Dog, but it seems a... certain naughty dog got a hold of the reigns.

The same person that was the writer and co director of the first game? Ellie doesn't die so clam down turbo, your neck beard is showing.