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Ka-pi96 said:
Xxain said:

You are using three JRPG's, all from highly popular franchises, to prove that turn based has not lost appeal ... and one of them is Pokemon? c'mon man. That you should tell you something. When a style of game loses appeal the most popular franchises in that style will ride it out because they have the established fanbase to do so. Everything else goes dormant. I am not saying they "themselves" are not appealing; Lets try it this way - Turn based JRPGS are still fun and they still have their place, it is not as prolific as it used to be though.. thus losing appeal. Shooters are appealing, so we have a shit of them (I don't care for them but its the truth), open world games are appealing so we have a shit of them. We have had this conversation over a dozen times this gen about the lack of turn based JPRG's.... that can only happen if we don't have a shit ton of them!

There are still plenty of turn based JRPGs though. Persona, Trails, Dragon Quest & those alchemist games to name just a few. We'll have a new very intriguing turn based JRPG next month with Fairy Tail too. Perhaps there are less than during the 4th/5th/6th gens. But there are less games made these days than back then full stop. They require more people/time than they used to. Or are you arguing because not many reach some arbitrary sales figure? 10m? Only 1 JRPG franchise has ever consistently hit 10m, and still does. 5m? Only 2 have consistently hit 5m and they both still do (although 1 of them isn't turn based anymore).

And I listed Persona as an example. That's NOT an example of one of the most popular franchises riding anything out though. Quite the opposite. Persona had never even reached 1m sales before Persona 4 Golden. And now Persona 5 has sold over 3m. If turn based games were declining in popularity then how exactly did a turn based franchise more than triple its sales within 2 titles?

And the reason this conversation keeps happening is because some people continue trying to push a false narrative despite the evidence saying otherwise. Just like EA with their "people don't like single player games anymore" bullshit.

PS4 have over 4000 games, I don't think PS1 had this many, for sure I know N64, GC, Xbox, DC, Saturn, etc didn't.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."