Official Protest Thread

[dark_gh0st_b0y]

SvennoJ said:

dark_gh0st_b0y said:

I did not skip the explanation, I'm rather looking for one... I agree that these are factors that play a role yes but is that enough to change the overall picture? One is arrested for committing a crime.

You conclude that black people 6x crime rate comes from the police keeping an eye on them for minor crimes, but you skipped the "Official FBI stats say that 49% of murders have been committed by African Americans in 2015" and the second graph that shows a huge difference about the most serious crime that is murder.

Read this through all the way if you want answers
https://thescipub.com/pdf/10.3844/jssp.2019.1.10.pdf

It comes from here
https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/

What they find is that black people are 3x more likely to be killed by police than white people while 1.3x less likely to be armed.
Location matters, not crime rates



There is a strong correlation between segregation and police killings
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0027968419301300
Racial residential segregation is a significant predictor of the magnitude of the Black-White disparity in fatal police shootings at the city level. Efforts to ameliorate the problem of fatal police violence must move beyond the individual level and consider the interaction between law enforcement officers and the neighborhoods that they police.

This is further explored in the study I linked above.

Terrill and Reisig also cited a study by Reiss and Bordua, which explained the ‘dirtbag-syndrome.’ This syndrome explained the behavior of police officers to place people into two categories. The first category included those viewed as deserving of punishment and the second category consisted of those undeserving of punishment. The people viewed as deserving to be punished are often called “dirtbags” by police officers (Reisig and Terrill, 2003:18). This study represents how when police officers enter neighborhoods that appear to be dangerous, they can already have a bias that some are deserving of police abuse, due to the area they reside. This presents a significant problem in how police officers perceive those who live in poor or dangerous neighborhoods. Often minorities are living in these poor areas, but not by choice.

It's not about crime rates, it's about perception, expectations, fear, stereotypes, racism.

African Americans across the nation can be subject to prejudice treatment by law enforcement officials. Negative stereotypes of African Americans have persisted for hundreds of years, which have affected the mass number of African Americans who have lost their lives due to police abuse. Policy implications are necessary for African Americans to be treated fairly as a citizen on the United States, rather than being viewed as a threat. Law enforcement officers must be held accountable for their actions and preventative measures must be taken to decrease the amount of police violence against African Americans.

Thanks for sharing! That explains a lot. 

Looks like there are huge differences between cities, and that makes the problem more evident. Racism must play a role in cities where crime rates are low but police killings high. At least it is easier to tackle the problem it if they start from specific cities.

Don't you think that perception, expectations and fear originate from African Americans committing more crimes, especially murders in the long term? I mean, if 50% of the murders traditionally come from the African Americans 13% minority, wouldn't the policemen be more scared for their lives and more biased, therefore more ready and less hesitating to kill someone if he is black?

Would the numbers be as bad if crime rates from African Americans were to decrease to average in the next 5-10 years or so?